[LarryRda]

Pakistan is a great Muslim nation with bright future inshaAllah.What has been said about Pakistan in this thread applies to almost all the Muslim countries without any exception.It is true that some nations are more rich than Pakistan,but that is not solely because of their own efforts,it is because of their natural resources and low population growth.

As for India,what is the comparison ? India is a huge Market, attracting business from everywhere,moreover as it is officially not a Muslim state,they don,t face the same negative feelings and propaganda compaign which is continuously going on against Pakistan.They are hot favourites as compared to Pakistan because no one feel threatened from a Hindu state or a benign Hindu religion which has no parallel programme for the betterment of humanity;The only thing they are good at is to offer the opium of yoga and meditation to the world.

Let me tell the poster from Bombay(h4honesty) that Kashmir is and never will be an integral part of India,if you don,t trust me,ask any Kashmiri in occupied Kashmir.Nehru cheated the whole international community by promising a plabecite which was never to come....typical Hindu mentality full of cheating and conspiracies.no one can control a state by putting more than half a million army there forever,let that half a million army go back and see the results.the hearts and minds of Kashmiri,s are not with you and you can not forcefully occupy them forever,the decision has been made by Kashmiri,s.they don,t want to be part of India and no one can force them to stay with India by killing and raping.India has already lost the war in Kashmir,they are no more than occupiers,and soon this occupation will come to an end too.

Yes,you are right.Pakistan is,or was,a puppet of America,but the new darlings of America,India,must learn from our experiences.America is dangerous for it's enemies,but Lethal for it's friends.Watch your steps,overwhelmed by your Anti- Pakistan sentiments ,you are fast heading towards the trape set by America.

Every one calls Pakistan a hubb of terrorism,was it our own choosing? Did we ask for it?.This war was imposed on Afghanistan by Russians,was a potential threat to Pakistan,and as a Muslim state it was our duty to help our Muslim Brothers defend themselves.Every one foregets now,that that war was supported by the whole world including America and Saudi Arabia.Jehadi,s from the whole Islamic world were encouraged to to go to Afghanistan via Pakistan and fight.Who knew that the 'mujahideen' of that time,who were honoured by reagon even in White house,would be declared terrorists of tomorrow ?.who knew that the same countries who sent those mujahideen would refuse to accept them back,and even cancel their nationalities,leaving no place for them to go except to stay either in Afghanistan or tribal area of Pakistan ? If it was a crime,the whole world is involved in that crime,why single out the poor Pakistan?
In fact Pakistan was the worst affected then and even now by the phenomena which started in late seventies.

And worst of all,after the Russian withdrawal,Pakistan was left alone by the entire international community to deal with the consequences of the war,a task much bigger and larger than the potential of Pakistan.

Then comes the question of Taliban.Who does not know that Taliban were created by the combined efforts of CIA and ISI,to help calm down the continuos bloody civil war in Afghanistan.Still,as a Pakistani, I genuinely feel ashamed by the role of Musharraf govt.against the same Taliban.

We voted XYZ to power ? Yes,but remember that the so called 'Arab spring' has happened many times in Pakistan.It was Pakistani nation who removed Ayub Khan from power after great sacrifices and blood shed....but the result was another Martial Law with the promise of a fair and free election,which ultimately led to the creation of Bangladesh.it was Pakistani masses who removed Bhutto from power through a prolonged and bloody agitation,but had to face another martial law as a result.then the chair game between the Benazir and Sharif thoroughly disappointed the people in the political future of Pakistan,as both were corrupt,both were selfish to the core,both were lazy,lousy and incapable,and both were interested in how to increase their own wealth rather than consolidate the national economy.Recently every one knows the the removal of Musharraf from power was a result of the movement for free judiciary.

So it is not that Pakistani people are doing nothing and just watching.we have tried our best but failed,because every mass movement only benefits the military.
But I must say,no one should under estimate the resolve of the Pakistani nation.Our governments might have failed,but Pskistani nation has not,and never will.we are a strong nation and we will pass through these difficult times,inshaAllah.