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**Keyclenef** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

you must have misunderstood me. i did not say i read everything.

all i want you to do is post some verses, or a chapter if possible, in the format that it was revealed to the Prophet along with a translation from yourself.

if you wish to give an explanation of the these verses/chapter then you may do so if you wish, but first please post from the actual book itself.

thank you.

In post#14 above I stated what I highlight below

salaam+

In post#14 above I stated what I highlight below

The hidden book (al-kitaab) is a programme that anyone in the world can learn and begin to understand within three hours.It is not a book you can just write with your hand and then say "here it is". It is a mental programme.
It requires the revealed books of ALLAAH(A*) to explain it. Because the previous people tampered with their books the Book (al-kitaab) became hidden from them and then they began to argue about it and finally doubt it. ALLAAH (A*) sent his last messenger(S+) with the last revelation called the recitation/reading (al-Qur'aan) with the 'Ahaadiyth and the execution of it called the Sunnah to explain it to those whom he chose to explain it. The hidden Book (al-kitaab) contains all the 'aayaat (symbols, signs) of ALLAAH(A*). I have made another thread called
ALLAAH (A*),The Qur'aan, The Prophet (S+), The "Itrah and The Hidden Book

Abudawud

And I have made it clear many places elsewhere where you said you read. I the brother will let me guide you you will enter the Book very quickly but you must let me show you how to enter.

Another example. If I were to write the following mathematical equation Y = MX + C or Y = MX + B what would most people understand. They would not know that that is the formula for a straight line. How would the man of knowledge respond when the person who does not know insist to see the straight line. The hidden Book (al-kitaab) is like that.
We use the letters of the language to take us into greater truth explanations. So the Qur'aan is the book that takes us to the hidden Book and the hadiyth is the detailed explanations. E.g if I were to ask you - what is 'alif laam miym- would you know? No you would not because you do not know what the 'alif is nor the laam nor the miym. You only know the sounds and shapes but what they are and what they represent you do not know. I hope I have explained it a bit clearer to you. If you want to know about the hidden book then you must let me guide you into it and then you will know it. Then you will begin to understand exactly why everything is the way it is. E.g. Within a three hour period of learning the hidden book you would know the meanings of hundreds of Arabic words even if you have never heard those words before because Arabic comes from a programme of knowledge that ALLAAH(A*) brought into existence. They are not just arbitrary inventions. This I have explained in my books The Qur'aan Lexicographical and Etymological Models which are going to be on the internet soon inshaa allaah. Let me know when we can embark inshaa allaah.

09-03-2012, 11:21 PM	#21
Keyclenef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	you must have misunderstood me. i did not say i read everything. all i want you to do is post some verses, or a chapter if possible, in the format that it was revealed to the Prophet along with a translation from yourself. if you wish to give an explanation of the these verses/chapter then you may do so if you wish, but first please post from the actual book itself. thank you. In post#14 above I stated what I highlight below salaam+ In post#14 above I stated what I highlight below The hidden book (al-kitaab) is a programme that anyone in the world can learn and begin to understand within three hours.It is not a book you can just write with your hand and then say "here it is". It is a mental programme. It requires the revealed books of ALLAAH(A) to explain it. Because the previous people tampered with their books the Book (al-kitaab) became hidden from them and then they began to argue about it and finally doubt it. ALLAAH (A) sent his last messenger(S+) with the last revelation called the recitation/reading (al-Qur'aan) with the 'Ahaadiyth and the execution of it called the Sunnah to explain it to those whom he chose to explain it. The hidden Book (al-kitaab) contains all the 'aayaat (symbols, signs) of ALLAAH(A). I have made another thread called ALLAAH (A),The Qur'aan, The Prophet (S+), The "Itrah and The Hidden Book** Abudawud And I have made it clear many places elsewhere where you said you read. I the brother will let me guide you you will enter the Book very quickly but you must let me show you how to enter. Another example. If I were to write the following mathematical equation Y = MX + C or Y = MX + B what would most people understand. They would not know that that is the formula for a straight line. How would the man of knowledge respond when the person who does not know insist to see the straight line. The hidden Book (al-kitaab) is like that. We use the letters of the language to take us into greater truth explanations. So the Qur'aan is the book that takes us to the hidden Book and the hadiyth is the detailed explanations. E.g if I were to ask you - what is 'alif laam miym- would you know? No you would not because you do not know what the 'alif is nor the laam nor the miym. You only know the sounds and shapes but what they are and what they represent you do not know. I hope I have explained it a bit clearer to you. If you want to know about the hidden book then you must let me guide you into it and then you will know it. Then you will begin to understand exactly why everything is the way it is. E.g. Within a three hour period of learning the hidden book you would know the meanings of hundreds of Arabic words even if you have never heard those words before because Arabic comes from a programme of knowledge that ALLAAH(A*) brought into existence. They are not just arbitrary inventions. This I have explained in my books The Qur'aan Lexicographical and Etymological Models which are going to be on the internet soon inshaa allaah. Let me know when we can embark inshaa allaah.
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