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Old 09-04-2012, 02:56 AM   #4
S.T.D.

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There are people on this forum who engage in doubtful matters a lot. They make takfiri pronouncements. they say things are not doubtful, when they are. So they will say things like Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is kafir. Which is such an extreme accusation to make, and it is an unnecessary accusation to make, because as soon as they make that pronouncement, they call upon the judgment of Allah swt. There is no reason for us to take such risks.
I personally would advise you to stick to your Imam and your local masjid as your massively main source of guidance. Look in particular to the way your Imam, or religious people at the masjid speak about others, the way they speak with such adab. Stay away from these doubtful matters please, and recognise on the internet, a lot of the people here would get shouted out of the masjid for speaking the way they do.
I personally am also fed up by the conduct of some of the people here. Inshallah I will keep on looking and find the right forum for me. There must be somewhere where the predominant theme of discussion is not on who is kafir and who is not. I am not saying this forum does not have good points, there is some incredible knowledge here, but the way people try to inject doubt into others hearts, where no doubt needs to exist, is un-necessary for me to be around.
I agree with you, but be patient. There are many people from different backgrounds and different levels of understanding... it would be impossible to cater for everyone. The reason I brought this topic up was b/c I have a very close friend who is really into perennialism, and always talks to me about it in a very intellectual manner. I am "deobandi" type Hanafi, yet some of the stuff he says is intriguing.. but after coming across a thread saying perennialism is kufr and worse still.. that Martin Lings, Hamza Yusuf and Rene Genon are all Kafirs, I got scared... But Alhumdulilah I think there is a difference on opinion and thus I will not think that perennialism is full out kufr, rather it may be some sort of innovation..
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