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**LookSe** · 01-19-2009, 02:19 AM

So Siro, why do you think Palestinians will behave differently than Israelis when it comes to caving in to violence? If you think that most Palestinians in Gaa will blame Hamas more than the IDF and Israel for the vast destruction and death, then you clearly don't pay attention to Arab sources.

There's a difference between caving in to violence and learning lessons about what to do and what not to do.

Israel did not cave in to Hezbullah violence, but it certainly learned good lessons regarding how to protect its interests vs. Hezbullah. Btw, Hezbullah did the same. Which is why, if there is aggression now, it is discrete, and civilian population is not risked.

If Israeli civilian population will be harmed, Hezbullah will suffer immensely.

Regarding my attention to Arab sources - I pay attention to those Arab sources who honestly discuss their situation, and not Al-Manar and Al-Jazeera types who promote the official moqauama line.

On a personal note, I doubt you have watched more arab or palestinian TV, read more arab language forums, newspapers etc, than me.

Mind you, I'm not waiting for an anti-Hamas coup - that is not realistic. But whatever hatred Gazan's feel towards Jews, their leadership will have plenty to ponder about when weighing their tactics.

As for the public - Hamas promised them improvement and brought none. Hamas said that continuous provocation would bear fruit, but it brought war. Hamas claimed their government would rid of the Fatah corruption, but they themselves proved to be corrupt, and intolerant.

I doubt this war does Hamas a favor.

Does it do Israel a favor in the eyes of the average Gazan? A big No. But we hadn't much to lose anyway. And we really did what we could to avoid unnecessary casualties, including an advance warnings, including using smaller and more exact bombs, including dropping hollow bombs to warn people to get away.

Obviously a war in a civilian area will not come without civilian casualties. And it's a shame it has come to this.

01-19-2009, 02:19 AM	#12
LookSe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	So Siro, why do you think Palestinians will behave differently than Israelis when it comes to caving in to violence? If you think that most Palestinians in Gaa will blame Hamas more than the IDF and Israel for the vast destruction and death, then you clearly don't pay attention to Arab sources. There's a difference between caving in to violence and learning lessons about what to do and what not to do. Israel did not cave in to Hezbullah violence, but it certainly learned good lessons regarding how to protect its interests vs. Hezbullah. Btw, Hezbullah did the same. Which is why, if there is aggression now, it is discrete, and civilian population is not risked. If Israeli civilian population will be harmed, Hezbullah will suffer immensely. Regarding my attention to Arab sources - I pay attention to those Arab sources who honestly discuss their situation, and not Al-Manar and Al-Jazeera types who promote the official moqauama line. On a personal note, I doubt you have watched more arab or palestinian TV, read more arab language forums, newspapers etc, than me. Mind you, I'm not waiting for an anti-Hamas coup - that is not realistic. But whatever hatred Gazan's feel towards Jews, their leadership will have plenty to ponder about when weighing their tactics. As for the public - Hamas promised them improvement and brought none. Hamas said that continuous provocation would bear fruit, but it brought war. Hamas claimed their government would rid of the Fatah corruption, but they themselves proved to be corrupt, and intolerant. I doubt this war does Hamas a favor. Does it do Israel a favor in the eyes of the average Gazan? A big No. But we hadn't much to lose anyway. And we really did what we could to avoid unnecessary casualties, including an advance warnings, including using smaller and more exact bombs, including dropping hollow bombs to warn people to get away. Obviously a war in a civilian area will not come without civilian casualties. And it's a shame it has come to this.
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