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**veizKinquiz** · 11-17-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Seriously Chegitz, it's based on hegelian dialectics, which is profoundly metaphysical.

Which of course does not discredit them - it only shows that metaphysics can be valid...

Hegel's dialectics are indeed metaphysical, because Hegel was an idealist philosopher. For him, the dialectic was the clash of ideas. Marxist dialectics, however, are based on the processes of the world: time, change, chaos, etc. Remember Marx's famous quote about standing Hegel on his head. One of the main thinkers of Chaos theory, Ilya Prigogene, in the 1970s credited Marxist dialectics as a precursor (by about 100 years).

11-17-2008, 04:06 PM	#34
veizKinquiz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Originally posted by Oncle Boris Seriously Chegitz, it's based on hegelian dialectics, which is profoundly metaphysical. Which of course does not discredit them - it only shows that metaphysics can be valid... Hegel's dialectics are indeed metaphysical, because Hegel was an idealist philosopher. For him, the dialectic was the clash of ideas. Marxist dialectics, however, are based on the processes of the world: time, change, chaos, etc. Remember Marx's famous quote about standing Hegel on his head. One of the main thinkers of Chaos theory, Ilya Prigogene, in the 1970s credited Marxist dialectics as a precursor (by about 100 years).
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