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**forotis** · 06-08-2010, 07:12 AM

nara,

Bravo K, this is the kind of passion we need when we see evil practiced or defended.

NN, I think you are a nice person, but have made up your mind on many issues. This is fine, I have no problem with it. But why do you get into these predictable temper tantrums regularly. This will only shut down civil exchange of ideas.

i thot kunjuppu and myself resolved our diff,and we agreed to disagree,on certain issues.i thot we have been very civil,why you middle middle come?dunno

but then u r welcome mate.

You said:
Disgusting is a very harsh word. Just imagine if I say your view on X or Y is disgusting how it would feel. Leaving that aside, we may live in USA or Canada, but our cultural affiliation is TB and this is the reason we linger here. So we have every right to criticize anything we see as wrong in TB community. Leaving even that, I think all of us have a right to express freely what we want, irrespective of our geographical location or affiliation. For example, a white man sitting in Timbuktu can criticize what Kim Il Jung does to Japan. In fact you have the right to say any irresponsible thing you want. But, if you do that often enough, nobody will take you seriously any more. i too criticised the criticism.just becoz one can criticise that which happened eons back,does not mean,its happening today in India,Just imagine how Indians as a nationality will feel,when you and kunjuppu have renounced your right as an Indian.ppl like me will think,its none of your biz,as you are not one of us - period.Culturally that you are with India,is indeed a small consolation.But you can do nothing about what has already happened,but just stir the stew and make us look bad sir.

Next:
Man o man, NN, take it easy, atrocities committed by others need not stop us from being self-critical. No society is free of sins that become the burden of later generations. It is the responsibility of the educated and the affluent, to spearhead progressive changes. An example -- would anyone refuse to criticize a wife-beating brother because the next door neighbor also beats his wife? ppl beat each other on a regular basis.some do it crudely rudely some do it sophisticated way.its just a degree of variations,i think.being self critical shud be to ones own life,not pontificating to others or condescending.

One more:
Is this a parody a la Steven Cobert? If not, I am really disappointed NN. K was talking about 10 year old widow and exclusion of elderly widows from certain social functions. How can you disagree with this? I will not believe your have such a stony heart. steven is an awesome stand up comedian,we agree on this.but K talking about something,which happened years back while he lived in India,and did nothing about it then,now a rejuvenated spirit bouncing in the forum,is a bit of a suspicious act to me.

NN, my request to you is, before you write a post opposing a view, take a few extra minutes, and then write. Also, please read it again before pressing "Submit" and remove any phrase you wouldn't like used against you.

Cheers! i think we are exchanging our views.what has happened in the past,is going to remain in the past.i am sure i will not abuse widows,nor have i done it even now.to expect the world to be like how it is now,to some past incident,is by itself a moot point.i know,owing to voice delievery tone tenor is unavailable for the ear to hear,so minus one sense perception,anything written and comprehended is only ones own limited comprehension from the written statement.as for things used against me,bring it on.

for k to write,no need to wear thirumangalyam,is atrocious.this is what i criticised.is it possible for him or you for that matter,to state to your own significant other,not to wear thirumangalyam and even if you do,it's a personal practise that you wish to adopt.traditions are there for a reason.to understand the tradition as to 'why' of it is also welcomed,instead of just doing away a tradition.obviously we all know,elders stipulated this practice,by denying this tradition,its tantamount to slapping on the face of elders of India.

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forotis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	nara, Bravo K, this is the kind of passion we need when we see evil practiced or defended. NN, I think you are a nice person, but have made up your mind on many issues. This is fine, I have no problem with it. But why do you get into these predictable temper tantrums regularly. This will only shut down civil exchange of ideas. i thot kunjuppu and myself resolved our diff,and we agreed to disagree,on certain issues.i thot we have been very civil,why you middle middle come?dunno but then u r welcome mate. You said: Disgusting is a very harsh word. Just imagine if I say your view on X or Y is disgusting how it would feel. Leaving that aside, we may live in USA or Canada, but our cultural affiliation is TB and this is the reason we linger here. So we have every right to criticize anything we see as wrong in TB community. Leaving even that, I think all of us have a right to express freely what we want, irrespective of our geographical location or affiliation. For example, a white man sitting in Timbuktu can criticize what Kim Il Jung does to Japan. In fact you have the right to say any irresponsible thing you want. But, if you do that often enough, nobody will take you seriously any more. i too criticised the criticism.just becoz one can criticise that which happened eons back,does not mean,its happening today in India,Just imagine how Indians as a nationality will feel,when you and kunjuppu have renounced your right as an Indian.ppl like me will think,its none of your biz,as you are not one of us - period.Culturally that you are with India,is indeed a small consolation.But you can do nothing about what has already happened,but just stir the stew and make us look bad sir. Next: Man o man, NN, take it easy, atrocities committed by others need not stop us from being self-critical. No society is free of sins that become the burden of later generations. It is the responsibility of the educated and the affluent, to spearhead progressive changes. An example -- would anyone refuse to criticize a wife-beating brother because the next door neighbor also beats his wife? ppl beat each other on a regular basis.some do it crudely rudely some do it sophisticated way.its just a degree of variations,i think.being self critical shud be to ones own life,not pontificating to others or condescending. One more: Is this a parody a la Steven Cobert? If not, I am really disappointed NN. K was talking about 10 year old widow and exclusion of elderly widows from certain social functions. How can you disagree with this? I will not believe your have such a stony heart. steven is an awesome stand up comedian,we agree on this.but K talking about something,which happened years back while he lived in India,and did nothing about it then,now a rejuvenated spirit bouncing in the forum,is a bit of a suspicious act to me. NN, my request to you is, before you write a post opposing a view, take a few extra minutes, and then write. Also, please read it again before pressing "Submit" and remove any phrase you wouldn't like used against you. Cheers! i think we are exchanging our views.what has happened in the past,is going to remain in the past.i am sure i will not abuse widows,nor have i done it even now.to expect the world to be like how it is now,to some past incident,is by itself a moot point.i know,owing to voice delievery tone tenor is unavailable for the ear to hear,so minus one sense perception,anything written and comprehended is only ones own limited comprehension from the written statement.as for things used against me,bring it on. for k to write,no need to wear thirumangalyam,is atrocious.this is what i criticised.is it possible for him or you for that matter,to state to your own significant other,not to wear thirumangalyam and even if you do,it's a personal practise that you wish to adopt.traditions are there for a reason.to understand the tradition as to 'why' of it is also welcomed,instead of just doing away a tradition.obviously we all know,elders stipulated this practice,by denying this tradition,its tantamount to slapping on the face of elders of India.
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