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05-21-2012, 10:50 AM | #21 |
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The vast majority of people do not base their hate or biases, if they have any; on pseudo-scientific, archaic typological terms developed by 19th and early 20th century physical anthropologists of all things.
According to these same physical anthropologists, the Weddid physical type is not synonymous with the Australid type found among Aboriginal Australians and it's so-called sub-types such as Barrinean, Carpentarian, Murrayian, and Tasmanid. Yet, the title of the thread makes it appear to be interchangeable. The premise of this thread is incredibly weak, vague and non-specific to begin with. |
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05-21-2012, 10:58 AM | #22 |
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The vast majority of people do not base their hate or biases, if they have any; on pseudo-scientific, archaic typological terms developed by 19th and early 20th century physical anthropologists of all things. also I have seen (Veddoid) looking people being hated here in the west, in high schools especially for the way they look . Also you can see the hate in many forums as well |
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05-21-2012, 11:01 AM | #23 |
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moron look at my first post, I said south asia, there are some Veddoid people in pakistan also and bangladesh, sri lanka etc... so I am not only including india, stop reacting like a idiot as always You always do your threads against, India. So shut the fuck up. I have never seen you mention a thing of "Weddoid' or "Aboroginal" about your butt-fucking Pashtun land. I know where this thread is leading, or where you will take it. But your buddy, Jale ain't here to troll with you, so this fight is your own. As per you, you do not even consider Pakistan in South Asia, and vomit when you see the map, CAUSE India is the largest entity. At least own up. You are doing what you always do: bash India with your fool hardy hatred, and Pakistani nationalism. Karachi boy. The Australian aborignal and Veddoid may not be same but they dont really look that different from each other ? |
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05-21-2012, 12:07 PM | #24 |
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The Australian aborignal and Veddoid may not be same but they dont really look that different from each other Weddid - Southeastern Asian racial type, considered a member of the greater "Australoid" group, however the relation to Australids is uncertain and provisional, and may be nothing but a shared retention of the generalized Pleistocene human morphology. Veddids are small-statured, gracile and stocky (pyknomorphic). The head is moderately low, and the face is roundish and euryprosopic and often characterized by strongly developed browridges. The nose is moderately broad, short and snub, with extended alae, and the mouth is "childlike", bending down at the corners. The skin tone varies between medium and very dark brown, the hair is wavy and black, and the eyes are brown. Veddids are most common in the forest mountains of India and the park jungles of Sri Lanka (the Gondid and Malid, incl. transitional Indo-Melanid and Melanid varieties); they constitute an important element in the population of the Indian Subcontinent. Their eastward distribution from India is characterized by a sliding transition to Paleo-Mongolids.Initially, physical anthropologists did adduce certain similarities in the morphological features of of Australian aborigines and Indian tribals, and more broadly, the generic populace of south and east India. Further inspection of these apparently shared phenotypical traits between some Indian populations and Australians has revealed that indigenous South-Asian tribal or ādivāsī groups in fact differed quite significantly in some important anatomical traits from the aboriginal Australians. Here is a simplified diagram of the comparative study which compared the Chenchu, Khond, Male, Kanikar and the Vedda with the Australians. It is from the book The Aboriginal Races of India by S.S Sarkar; quoting a study carried out by a certain Sewell and Biraja Sankar Guha (thumbnail below). Of course, phenotypic continuity will certainly not be completely maintained between populations which diverged approximately 50,000 years ago. Not to mention that Paleolithic South-Asians have gone onto mix heavily with exogenous West-Eurasians. The description of so-called Weddids in the SNPA site mentions a very important point - that what may seem like a phenotypic connection between an aboriginal substrate in South-Asia and Australia might simply be a shared retention of the generalized Pleistocene human morphology. Indain Weddid types are often more gracile, and far less robust than Australian aborigines. Genetics doesn't substantiate that they are synonymous or very similar to each other either. At very low Ks in ADMIXTURE analyses, Indian populations, especially those of the south do show some affinity with the Oceanian reference populations. But, this immediately disappears at higher Ks. This very vague and generic (and probably, old) connection between the main non-West Eurasian component in India and Australia/Oceania doesn't substantiate the persistence and continued presence of a so-called Australoid race in this region. You might say, this is only about looks, but we are on a forum that discusses population genetics at length, and as the anthropometric comparison of key morphological traits also illustrates, Indian tribal groups that are often cited as a exemplars of the Weddid type are vastly different from Australian aborigines. also I have seen (Veddoid) looking people being hated here in the west, in high schools especially for the way they look . Also you can see the hate in many forums as well
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05-21-2012, 01:00 PM | #26 |
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05-22-2012, 01:32 AM | #27 |
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also I have seen (Veddoid) looking people being hated here in the west, in high schools especially for the way they look . Also you can see the hate in many forums as well Personal anecdotes you retrieve from your posterior doesn't count. |
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05-22-2012, 01:34 AM | #28 |
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Depends where it
happens. If some old rustic village, the untouchable might be reprimanded or bashed. Else, it is a no issue in cities. People would probably not do anything but, some people will feel disgusted when they touch untouchables. Some are scared to touch them. Like me... I've been taught to never touch them or else I'll catch some dangerous disease and now I'm afraid to touch them. I feel like washing my hands for hours when I do. So, you can't say that it isn't an issue at all... |
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05-22-2012, 02:24 AM | #30 |
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People would probably not do anything but, some people will feel disgusted when they touch untouchables. Some are scared to touch them. Like me... I've been taught to never touch them or else I'll catch some dangerous disease and now I'm afraid to touch them. I feel like washing my hands for hours when I do. So, you can't say that it isn't an issue at all... |
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05-22-2012, 02:29 AM | #31 |
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05-22-2012, 02:30 AM | #32 |
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05-22-2012, 02:31 AM | #33 |
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People would probably not do anything but, some people will feel disgusted when they touch untouchables. Some are scared to touch them. Like me... I've been taught to never touch them or else I'll catch some dangerous disease and now I'm afraid to touch them. I feel like washing my hands for hours when I do. So, you can't say that it isn't an issue at all... and again this thread is really talking about the caste system, because the veddiod look is found in all castes |
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05-22-2012, 02:35 AM | #34 |
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you're nothing but a asshole then and who ever is teaching you that. Seriously you indians need to live in reality, the untouchables are no different then you other indians, especially in the way they look. The whole system of oppression in India is rooted in your culture True, Weddoid look is common to India. Even I am Weddoid, and my classification was done the same. But coming back to your OP, I never felt hatred due to my looks. Foreigners interact with me on a daily basis. I have been abroad. So. |
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05-22-2012, 02:35 AM | #35 |
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05-22-2012, 02:38 AM | #36 |
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As I said, it depends. I was not taught such, but it is practiced at my ancestral house. They cannot enter our house with shoes on, and even their water glass is kept outside. On the other hand, here in Delhi, I see a different temperament. It can vary. |
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05-22-2012, 02:40 AM | #37 |
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05-22-2012, 02:40 AM | #38 |
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05-22-2012, 02:43 AM | #39 |
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05-22-2012, 02:44 AM | #40 |
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