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Old 02-06-2012, 04:53 AM   #1
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Default my conspiracy theory about hip hop
hip hop music has a low production cost and that's one the reason of its enduring success.
but I have a personal theory to explain why hip hop is also still enjoying a huge popularity after so many years: it's been artificially supported by record companies and by the establishment to dumb down african americans. aframs are one of the least successful demographic groups in school and education in the US. one of the reasons of that is because their popular culture is openly hostile to academic accomplishments. Hip Hop is promoting this hostility and is also distracting black people from learning to play music with real instruments. playing an instrument is a source of personal accomplishment that requires focus, practice, discipline and hard working. those skills are not anymore provided to the black community by music. Coltrane, Davis, Charlie Parker were skilled musicians who used to spend hours practicing and were committed to their music. nothing that you can find in hip hop besides some exceptions. hip hop is a musical genre that doesn't require much practice or musical expertise. in fact it can be performed easily by amateurs.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:58 AM   #2
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hip hop music has a low production cost and that's one the reason of its enduring success.
but I have a personal theory to explain why hip hop is also still enjoying a huge popularity after so many years: it's been artificially supported by record companies and by the establishment to dumb down african americans. aframs are one of the least successful demographic groups in school and education in the US. one of the reasons of that is because their popular culture is openly hostile to academic accomplishments. Hip Hop is promoting this hostility and is also distracting black people from learning to play music with real instruments. playing an instrument is a source of personal accomplishment that requires focus, practice, discipline and hard working. those skills are not anymore provided to the black community by music. Coltrane, Davis, Charlie Parker were skilled musicians who used to spend hours practicing and were committed to their music. nothing that you can find in hip hop besides some exceptions. hip hop is a musical genre that doesn't require much practice or musical expertise. in fact it can be performed easily by amateurs.
the hip pop, pop rap perhaps not REAL HIP HOP
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:31 AM   #3
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^^^^
whatever you're smoking brother, send it here!

Anywayz black Americans have lost their talent cause they're nothing but "Couch Niggers!"
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:01 AM   #4
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i've tried to make beats before, its not as easy at it looks, its an art in and of itself.

and as maroon king said, there is a difference between popular music that you see on 106th and park and more conscious rappers, like nas,black star,krs,k-rino etc. what gets played on the radio and on tv is usually the type of music people (mostly young people) want to hear. something you can dance to in the club more or less. and its not just rap. listen to the rock music on the radio, there are alot of songs out there that touch on more social matters, but what mostly gets played is more pop style music. why? because a much wider demographic can listen to it and enjoy it. even rappers like lil boosie who everyone says is a one dimensional rapper has songs that talk about relevant issues such as poverty, crime, life struggles etc. but most people only hear the song "wipe me down" and think "this is the best we can expect from this person" without ever listening to the rest of his music.

rap music will never go away. it will evolve though, and it already is. if you listen to early style hip hop from the 80's to what was being produced in the 2000's its a totally different sound. every genre of music has evolved over the years, from rock and roll to country to jazz and r&b etc. rap is a great way to convey ideas and to address certain social issues. there can be alot of word play and more traditional lyrics and at the same time they can come out and say things very bluntly.

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i'd also disagree with the notion that rap doesn't take any expertise. the level of lyricism is much greater than in any other genre. because that is probably the most important part of rap music. thats how it started afterall.. people were battling eachother with rhymes as early as the 60's and 70's. the musical aspect of it came later.
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:14 AM   #5
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i've tried to make beats before, its not as easy at it looks, its an art in and of itself.

and as maroon king said, there is a difference between popular music that you see on 106th and park and more conscious rappers, like nas,black star,krs,k-rino etc. what gets played on the radio and on tv is usually the type of music people (mostly young people) want to hear. something you can dance to in the club more or less. and its not just rap. listen to the rock music on the radio, there are alot of songs out there that touch on more social matters, but what mostly gets played is more pop style music. why? because a much wider demographic can listen to it and enjoy it. even rappers like lil boosie who everyone says is a one dimensional rapper has songs that talk about relevant issues such as poverty, crime, life struggles etc. but most people only hear the song "wipe me down" and think "this is the best we can expect from this person" without ever listening to the rest of his music.

rap music will never go away. it will evolve though, and it already is. if you listen to early style hip hop from the 80's to what was being produced in the 2000's its a totally different sound. every genre of music has evolved over the years, from rock and roll to country to jazz and r&b etc. rap is a great way to convey ideas and to address certain social issues. there can be alot of word play and more traditional lyrics and at the same time they can come out and say things very bluntly.

---------- Post added 2012-02-05 at 23:07 ----------

i'd also disagree with the notion that rap doesn't take any expertise. the level of lyricism is much greater than in any other genre. because that is probably the most important part of rap music. thats how it started afterall.. people were battling eachother with rhymes as early as the 60's and 70's. the musical aspect of it came later.
completely agree, which music can embody the complex lyricism of a Rakim or Canibus?

Dig into my brain as the rhyme gets chosen
So follow me and were ya thinkin' you were first?
Let's travel at magnificent speeds around the Universe
What could ya say as the Earth gets further and further away
Planets are small as balls of clay
Astray into the Milky Way - world's outasight
Far as the eye can see - not even a satellite
Now stop and turn around and look
As ya stare in the darkness, ya knowledge is took!
So keep starin soon ya suddenly see a star
You better follow it cause it's the R
This is a lesson if ya guessin and if ya borrowin
Hurry hurry step right up and keep followin
The Leader -Rakim
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:29 PM   #6
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The level of lyricism today sucks, during the Golden Age it reigned supreme. there are only a handful of lyricists today.
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