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Old 08-02-2010, 03:05 PM   #21
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The only one of your "race traitors" I agree with here is Micahel Jackson. Everybody else here isn't.

DeNiro may like the sistahs, but let's be real.... sistahs have their own kind of personalities that turn people or or off and we all know God blessed us negros with beautiful bodies

The Kardashians are not race traitors.... they're gold diggers. They go after anyone with money/power/pride/influence/etc; they're attracted to wealth & ego (just look at who their father was and who their stepdad is). Plus everybody knows we brothas make the best lovers...
Talk about bias. "MJ was a race traitor, but those other people, they just realize that blacks are better than whites"

...If you like big noses, big lips, big foreheads, big ears, nappy hair...

See, I can make a bigoted statement, too.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:05 PM   #22
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Cardio
I am good at cardio too, I wouldn't want a slow ass kid that can't run a mile either, good point.

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Talk about bias. "MJ was a race traitor, but those other people, they just realize that blacks are better than whites"

...If you like big noses, big lips, big foreheads, big ears, nappy hair...

See, I can make a bigoted statement, too.
I still think MJ was the most of a race traitor of all examples...

I mean... he was a stereotypical Jim Crow era negro that turned into some white-looking elve. He even got some surgery to remove the prognatism, talk about obsessions.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:08 PM   #23
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Because that's a copout.

If you can't control your fetishes, then we're all slaves and we should leave people who defile animals (bad example, I'm not comparing any particular race to any animal species) alone because they're just doing what their body tells them to do.

Black guys who won't date black women have long been seen as villains, and I think we should spread the wealth around and give the same treatment to anyone of any gender or ethnic background who follows that practice.
OK in some ways Im in agreement with you...

say, if someone is really fetishizing not out of a preference, but instead, to make a statement, to give a middle finger to society and rebel, to climb up a perceived social ladder, etc...yeah, that sort of person is contempt worthy.

But someone who cant help what they find physically attractive, and naturally develop a trend based on that, then, can we really blame them or call them out? You are a slave to your cravings...we all are, and that goes for pedophiles too, it's just that some cravings are more of a menace/danger to society than others.

A pedophile getting a hold of a defenseless child and satisfying his craving will do immeasurable damage physically and physiologically to that child. Someone satisfying his or her racial preference on the other hand isnt doing anyone harm, are they?
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:10 PM   #24
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Because that's a copout.
not good enough.

If you can't control your fetishes, then we're all slaves and we should leave people who defile animals (bad example, I'm not comparing any particular race to any animal species) alone because they're just doing what their body tells them to do.
Damn right, that's a bad example. And I think "fetish" is overused. First of all, there should be no reason to "control" a preference for a person of a different race. Why, because other people don't like it? Who am I hurting? Certainly not the other consenting adult.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:11 PM   #25
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It's not about doing any harm, because we're not talking about punishing them. A pedophile will be handled appropriately via the legal system.

We're talking about whether we should, as individual members of society, approve of such behavior. I happen to think that if someone is only sexually attracted to one group, whether it's their own, or another, that's racist... and being racist against your own people is even worse than being racist against other peoples.

If Michael Jackson saw black women as unattractive, and had a fetish for white women, only finding Caucasians to be attractive, then he was a racist of the worst kind.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:11 PM   #26
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Again, it doesn't bother me if they date a black guy, that's their choice and it's a free country... but to exclusively date a particular race that is not your own, blech!
And what if your race's women are ugly as fuck?
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:14 PM   #27
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And what if your race's women are ugly as fuck?
There must be something internally wrong with you that leads you to think that. Your father must have liked your race's women, and so did his father. Ditto your mother and her mother in regards to men. So, what's so special about you?

The women aren't the ones with the problem. You are.

(The rhetorical you, not you in particular. )
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:15 PM   #28
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And what if your race's women are ugly as fuck?
Like in Peru? Man, I think you disdain Peruvian women a lot... I had a Peruvian friend in highschool, his younger sister was/is hot as hell
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:20 PM   #29
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We're talking about whether we should, as individual members of society, approve of such behavior. I happen to think that if someone is only sexually attracted to one group, whether it's their own, or another, that's racist... and being racist against your own people is even worse than being racist against other peoples.
I don't see why members of society should disapprove of anything unless it's harmful in some way, so in that sense it is about harm. You're free to dislike it if you wish, but I feel you're not telling the whole truth when you list your reasons why you dislike it.

If you want my honest opinion, I actually like to see mixed couples, whether they're with my group or not, male or female.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:25 PM   #30
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Like in Peru? Man, I think you disdain Peruvian women a lot... I had a Peruvian friend in highschool, his younger sister was/is hot as hell
Peruvian is not a race.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:27 PM   #31
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I don't see why members of society should disapprove of anything unless it's harmful in some way, so in that sense it is about harm. You're free to dislike it if you wish, but I feel you're not telling the whole truth when you list your reasons why you dislike it.

If you want my honest opinion, I actually like to see mixed couples, whether they're with my group or not, male or female.
I don't have a problem with mixed race couples, nor have I implied anything to that effect.

Intermarriage has produced some very, very attractive people.

That being said, white girls with jungle fever, guys with yellow fetishes, etc. are what I'm railing against. There's nothing wrong in my opinion with finding another race attractive or wanting to get involved with someone, but, again, if you're exclusively interested in that group, then you're prejudiced against the others.

I'm not sexually attracted to black women. That doesn't mean I dislike them, or that I don't befriend them. It's not cultural or racial. I just don't like their strong physical features. All other ethnic groups are fair game, though.

Who cares about harm? When the ATM has "Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish", it's not hurting anyone. It's actually helping some people. That doesn't stop a large portion of Americans from getting pissed off. That's human nature.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:30 PM   #32
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Peruvian is not a race.
You are a country and as such have looks pertaining to your region of South America.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:33 PM   #33
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I think he's talking about exaggerated - almost fetishes - preferences towards certain ethnicities/races. Compare with the "racist dating"-thread which dealt with it too.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:35 PM   #34
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I think he's talking about exaggerated - almost fetishes - preferences towards certain ethnicities/races. Compare with the "racist dating"-thread which dealt with it too.
Indeed. I didn't see any other threads that discuss this topic directly, and my apologies if there is another recent one.

I've got a Jewish friend. He speaks fluent Japanese and wants to move to Japan to teach English to kids. He is only attracted to women from the Orient. He's got pictures of Korean singers on his walls and watches Japanese porn and whatnot.

I think that's absurd. Do I want him to be fined or thrown in jail? No, but he shouldn't be encouraged. Go to Japan, sure... have fun!

...the mentality behind it? That provokes only negative feelings from me.
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Old 08-02-2010, 03:37 PM   #35
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Lol... is this a joke or are u really trying to imply that every European is fit for Cardio so race-mixing would only reduce their fitness? (Gotta ask.... this forum is full of wackos )

Talk about bias. "MJ was a race traitor, but those other people, they just realize that blacks are better than whites"
MJ was a race traitor (fool tried his hardest to look/be white) EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. And I never said "blacks were better than whites"

And what if your race's women are ugly as fuck?
Lmao!

Incal and his anger towards Peruvian women
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:37 PM   #36
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I am a nationalist and do not like to see other Germans with people of other races. But I can not do anything since this is a private matter after all.
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:48 PM   #37
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Michael Jackson was a race traitor, too. Funny that he got involved with the Nation of Islam at the end, eh?
Michael Jackson got involed with the nation of islam? I thought he had converted to Islam of the usual, non-racist kind.
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:05 PM   #38
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I don't really care, as long as its keeping your Y-DNA alive, I'm all for it.
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:11 PM   #39
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In your mind, do they exist?

If a black guy happens to marry a white girl, I don't mind. If a Latin girl happens to date a Chinese guy, so what?

But if someone develops a pattern and it becomes obvious that they are only attracted to a particular race other than their own, it bothers me, and I know it's wrong that it does, but that's just how I'm wired, I guess. You should like your own people.

Like, I consider Robert DeNiro a race traitor. He's had a long history of only dating and marrying black women. For example, he signed on as director of A Bronx Tale because he liked the underlying theme of the main character dealing with his racist Italian friends and winding up with a black girl.

Michael Jackson was a race traitor, too. Funny that he got involved with the Nation of Islam at the end, eh?

I also don't like the Kardashian sisters, because the three of them only date black men.

Again, it doesn't bother me if they date a black guy, that's their choice and it's a free country... but to exclusively date a particular race that is not your own, blech!

What's your take? Should those who aren't attracted to their own people be frowned upon?
1) Actually two of them only date black men, one Karadashian sister seems to date anyone, she had a kid by a white guy.

2) "Race traitor" does not exist because "race" is not a defined entity to betray. Don't confuse the U.S. situation with the world. When we say black in America, we mean African AMerican, an ethnicity. White Americans, basically we mainly mean WASP or people who are acculterated into the WASP culture. The 'ethnic whites', who are "white" really are a minority and not the mainstream of white culture.

3) There is no biological or higher social imparitive to date or marry a person who is the most biologically similar to you. LOL That is all in your mind. There has never been any scientific study that showed that marrying certain groups of people are worse or better biologically...well, some groups might have high rates of genetic disease, but that says nothing about an individual.

Basically everything you have said is your personal bias/tribalism.

I don't give a damn who dates who. NOr do I second guess who dates who. I can't know what goes through other people's mind, and to be honest it is none of my damn business, if they aren't hurting me, forcing others to do something, it is their business.

I thought you were libertarian? You should totalitarian.

4) If you really want to get down to it, I knew an Italian guy who loved the Irish chicks in high school, especially any redhead, he likely had no genes for redhair, I never saw him with an Italian chick.

The only difference between him and a Eskimo who only dates Bushmen is degree of genetic distance, in reality it is the same shit...

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Because they're insulting their heritage and spitting on their family. If my sister exclusively dated black guys, or Chinese guys, or whatever, I'd be just as upset if she converted to Islam or came out as a lesbian.
Spitting on their family?

Insulting their heritage.

LOL

That's all fantasy.

If you grow up in the same country as someone, especially, as in the U.S., I'm originally from Ohio, for example, culturally, I'm a lot closer to the average "Czech" American there culturally than they are to a Czech in the Czech Republic.

THere heritage was "spit on" the day they left their crap country for a better life, that's how I look at it. If your heritage was so fucking good, and your people all that, then why the fuck are you in the United States, when your family immigrated voluntarily? Obviously, at some point someone decided where we live sucks, they were not interested in fighting to make it better either. They weren't down with "dying for their people" and all that bullshit. So lets drop the ethnocentrism if you are American.

If you then move to another country and try to retain some "pure ethnic line" as if you are going to continue your "civilization" in a foreign land surrounded by foreigner, I consider that personally asinine..hell 50% of Jews in America marry out, and they are probably the most ethno-centric people in the United States.

Spitting in your family?

LOL You act like your family is pure? You said that your last name is originally Arabic? So someone at some point "spit on their heritage" likely a few times in your family tree right?

Maybe someone was raped? Well maybe the whore should have killed herself than have an invaders child, right?

All this crap breaks down under the weight of the sticking shit it is built off on under basic scrutiny.

All it is is tribal sentiment that you choose to buy into.

Most of the ethnic groups that exist today did not exist 1500 years ago, and most of the ones that exist today won't exist 1500-2000 years from now, all that bullshit is transient, human history shows that quite well for most groups on earth.

As I say all the time, an Englishman does not look in the mirror and cry that his ancestors spit on their heritage and he is a mutt of Roman (possibly even Africa, Middle Eastern, etc heritage, based on what we know of the troops housed there), various Celts, various Germanics, later Normans (who themselves were Gaulinized Roman, Frank, and Nordic Germanics)...

No, he thinks "I'm an Englishman...fuck a Welsh and a Scot..." In reality "English" is a recent invention, that didn't exist even 1500 years ago.

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...the mentality behind it? That provokes only negative feelings from me.
Sounds like you don't have enough business of your own that you are so worried about other people's.

It's a personal problem.

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I am a nationalist and do not like to see other Germans with people of other races. But I can not do anything since this is a private matter after all.
Do you feel the same if you see Austrians and Swiss German speakers marry or date other races?
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:07 PM   #40
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My personal feeling on the matter is that mixing is overall good for evolution and the more "pure" people are-the less attractive they seem to be--unless they are caucasians (to me, IMO).

I am seeking the best possible genes to mix with and even though, for most features, caucasoids are not clearly the best-they seem to me to be the best combination of genes without any glaring weaknesses that other races have (Asians-height and physique, SSA-skin color, hair texture and intlellect).

However, if I come across and fall in love with a tall Asian chic with proper curves and exceptional athletic ability....I'd have no problem marrying her. Same goes for a Afram with light skin and 125+ IQ. Probably, these women are most likely to be already mixed-race (preferably with Euro admix) to have these combinations, but obviously not exclusively so.

No matter the specifics, I would never marry a pure SSA or an average Asian (Physically), because I don't think the resulting phenotype would have much chance of improving my particular line.
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