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Old 01-13-2011, 05:59 PM   #1
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They can drive in both. But only accrue points for the owner.
Exactly, and I like it also.

Nationwide Series, while it needs Cup drivers to fill seats and demand a TV audience, is really meant for the development of potential future Cup drivers. Frankly, I only watch Nationwide to see these guys (Steve Wallace, Trevor Bayne, Brendan Gaughn, etc), I don't watch the Nationwide series to watch Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards beat and bang. I watch Cup for that.

So I'm very pleased at this new rule. The Cup drivers, while they can still race Nationwide, they're going to focus more on Cup now, freeing up opportunities to see some younger and less known drivers get their chance.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:06 PM   #2
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I have a question (I might have asked this before) but from something I overheard in conversation:

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Are these cars actually stock? I've heard that is not the case...which would make sense but I'm not sure. Kinda takes away lot of the coolness if they aren't.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:08 PM   #3
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I have a question (I might have asked this before) but from something I overheard in conversation:

National
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Auto
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Are these cars actually stock? I've heard that is not the case...which would make sense but I'm not sure. Kinda takes away lot of the coolness if they aren't.
There's nothing stock on these cars anymore.

But that's how it started.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:10 PM   #4
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There's nothing stock on these cars anymore.

But that's how it started.
I think it would be a lot cooler if they were...Granted, I'm not sure how much speed you could get out of a vehicle of all stock parts...
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:20 PM   #5
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Exactly, and I like it also.

Nationwide Series, while it needs Cup drivers to fill seats and demand a TV audience, is really meant for the development of potential future Cup drivers. Frankly, I only watch Nationwide to see these guys (Steve Wallace, Trevor Bayne, Brendan Gaughn, etc), I don't watch the Nationwide series to watch Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards beat and bang. I watch Cup for that.

So I'm very pleased at this new rule. The Cup drivers, while they can still race Nationwide, they're going to focus more on Cup now, freeing up opportunities to see some younger and less known drivers get their chance.
I don't know.

Will Kyle Bush fly to Kentucky for a Nationwide race on Saturday if he's gonna race in Sprint on Sunday?

Will any of these guys race the Milwaukee Mile?

If they have no chance at the championship?

I think this hurts attendance if big names don't show up.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:26 PM   #6
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I don't know.

Will Kyle Bush fly to Kentucky for a Nationwide race on Saturday if he's gonna race in Sprint on Sunday?

Will any of these guys race the Milwaukee Mile?

If they have no chance at the championship?

I think this hurts attendance if big names don't show up.
Well, like I said, Kyle probably won't do that now. But those weeks are the exception, not the rule. And actually, the Kentucky week usually only sees about 5 or so Cup drivers make the trip anyway (Brad, Kyle, Carl, maybe Kevin, etc). THe thing is, for Kentucky and Milwaukee, those are the only NASCAR races they get, and the fans are going to show up anyway.

I really don't see this as a negative at all. I see it as a definite positive for the up and coming drivers who are trying to make a name for themselves. This is good for NASCAR, IMO. Again, if you're watching the Nationwide Series to watch Carl and Kyle go at it, you're kinda doin' it wrong anyway. Frankly, the racing MIGHT just get better, because these young guys have a lot to prove. Where before they might "move over" for one of the Cup stars, they're going to race their Nationwide peers a lot harder, IMO.

We'll see, I suppose. I just like that NASCAR listens to the fans and the drivers and continues to be flexible to make changes that should benefit the sport. They do that better than any other professional sport out there. Fans have been complaining about this for many seasons now, and NASCAR has finally done something about it.
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:33 PM   #7
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Well, like I said, Kyle probably won't do that now. But those weeks are the exception, not the rule. And actually, the Kentucky week usually only sees about 5 or so Cup drivers make the trip anyway (Brad, Kyle, Carl, maybe Kevin, etc). THe thing is, for Kentucky and Milwaukee, those are the only NASCAR races they get, and the fans are going to show up anyway.

I really don't see this as a negative at all. I see it as a definite positive for the up and coming drivers who are trying to make a name for themselves. This is good for NASCAR, IMO. Again, if you're watching the Nationwide Series to watch Carl and Kyle go at it, you're kinda doin' it wrong anyway. Frankly, the racing MIGHT just get better, because these young guys have a lot to prove. Where before they might "move over" for one of the Cup stars, they're going to race their Nationwide peers a lot harder, IMO.

We'll see, I suppose. I just like that NASCAR listens to the fans and the drivers and continues to be flexible to make changes that should benefit the sport. They do that better than any other professional sport out there. Fans have been complaining about this for many seasons now, and NASCAR has finally done something about it.
I think the ONLY venues that will be hurt are the ones who don't have a cup race the same weekend.

The ones who have a cup race the next day already have weak attendance because everybody is geared up for the main event. The cup drivers will still overpopulate those races becaust the car owners will make it worth their while to drive.

This new rule helps the young struggling teams and drivers in the lower series', but hurts the smaller tracks with no cup race. How much it hurts them I don't know.
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:07 PM   #8
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I think it would be a lot cooler if they were...Granted, I'm not sure how much speed you could get out of a vehicle of all stock parts...
they used to get close to 200 mph out of the ones in the 70's....and they were a heck of a lot closer to true stock back then.......
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:25 PM   #9
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Well, like I said, Kyle probably won't do that now. But those weeks are the exception, not the rule. And actually, the Kentucky week usually only sees about 5 or so Cup drivers make the trip anyway (Brad, Kyle, Carl, maybe Kevin, etc). THe thing is, for Kentucky and Milwaukee, those are the only NASCAR races they get, and the fans are going to show up anyway.

I really don't see this as a negative at all. I see it as a definite positive for the up and coming drivers who are trying to make a name for themselves. This is good for NASCAR, IMO. Again, if you're watching the Nationwide Series to watch Carl and Kyle go at it, you're kinda doin' it wrong anyway. Frankly, the racing MIGHT just get better, because these young guys have a lot to prove. Where before they might "move over" for one of the Cup stars, they're going to race their Nationwide peers a lot harder, IMO.

We'll see, I suppose. I just like that NASCAR listens to the fans and the drivers and continues to be flexible to make changes that should benefit the sport. They do that better than any other professional sport out there. Fans have been complaining about this for many seasons now, and NASCAR has finally done something about it.
Kentucky has a Sprint Cup race this year.
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Old 01-24-2011, 06:36 AM   #10
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I think it would be a lot cooler if they were...Granted, I'm not sure how much speed you could get out of a vehicle of all stock parts...
The rules of NASCAR used to state for a manufacturer to run a particular model it had to produce a certain number of that particular model exactly as it was to be raced. If they were to go back to that it would be too costly to the manufacturer and impractical to offer to the public. People today don't want a bare bones car. People want a heater, air conditioning, and a lot of other goodies in a car that add weight and rob power from the car if on the car. Back in the day what we expect to be standard on a car now, was pretty much all options outside of a heater. Yeah the cars had a ton of power and whatnot, but I'm guessing translating into today's standards it would be very cost ineffective to own a with crappy gas mileage and little ride comfort, etc.
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:11 PM   #11
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Nascar has decided you can only drive one series this year, no double dipping. I like it, but I hate it too. Nationwide will suffer.


http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar...ory?id=6010219

Last year Carl Edwards finished the season in fourth in NASCAR's Sprint Cup standings and second in the Nationwide Series.
Don't expect that to happen again. Drivers in NASCAR's three series -- Sprint Cup, Nationwide and Trucks -- will not be allowed to accrue points in more than one series for the 2011 season, according to a report from NASCAR.com.
Sprint Cup drivers such as Edwards, last year's Nationwide winner Brad Keselowski, and 2010 Nationwide wins leader Kyle Busch will no longer be allowed to chase two titles at once.
Rumors of several changes to NASCAR have swirled ahead of the sport's "competition update" slated for Jan. 21, but it appears the series designation is one that will go into effect this season.
"The brand-new license forms that are out, there's a box and in it, it states that you have to mark -- put an X -- what championship you're running for," driver Kenny Wallace told NASCAR.com.
"A driver will only be permitted to earn driver championship points in one of the following three series: NASCAR Sprint Cup, NASCAR Nationwide or NASCAR Camping World Truck Series," Wallace said, reading his application. "Please select the series in which you would like to accumulate driver championship points. Choose one."
NASCAR spokesman Kerry Tharp told NASCAR.com that questions about the three series will be answered next week at the competition update.
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:14 PM   #12
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They can drive in both. But only accrue points for the owner.
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