[_tppga_]

Um, can we let this nobody actually race a Nationwide race before we crown him?

Geezus. He has as much chance to be the next Paul Menard as he does to be the next Kyle Busch.

Being a Wisconsin Boy I take a little exception to that. Looking at his stats, he's finished in the top 15 only once this year, which isn't good, but not terrible as he's a consistent middle of the pack driver. How much of it though has to do with the fact that he drives for DEI who really doesn't have that great of a program? Of course he probably wouldn't be where he is if his daddy John Menard (on of my former employers) hadn't sponsored all his big league stock car rides.

Of course, might I point out he's higher in points than guys like Robby Gordon, Elliot Sadler, and Dave Blaney to name a few guys who are probably better drivers than him. I wonder what Paul Menard would be able to do with a team maybe like Rousch or Childress?

In regards to Logano, it seems like he's done quite well in his first Nationwide race finishing in the top 10. Of course that's only one race. Let's see what he can do with a few more races under his belt. Good start though.

[bppstorr]

I saw an interview on Speed with him and he seems like a decent kid. Hopefully he has more respect for the sport and gains the respect of the fans, unlike Busch.

[Grzqbmhy]

Being a Wisconsin Boy I take a little exception to that. Looking at his stats, he's finished in the top 15 only once this year, which isn't good, but not terrible as he's a consistent middle of the pack driver. How much of it though has to do with the fact that he drives for DEI who really doesn't have that great of a program? Of course he probably wouldn't be where he is if his daddy John Menard (on of my former employers) hadn't sponsored all his big league stock car rides.

Of course, might I point out he's higher in points than guys like Robby Gordon, Elliot Sadler, and Dave Blaney to name a few guys who are probably better drivers than him. I wonder what Paul Menard would be able to do with a team maybe like Rousch or Childress?

In regards to Logano, it seems like he's done quite well in his first Nationwide race finishing in the top 10. Of course that's only one race. Let's see what he can do with a few more races under his belt. Good start though.

I don't think this question deserves it's own thread so I'll just ask it here since I've already brought it up in a fashion.

If DEI under Teresa actually had a top tier program does anyone think Jr. would have tried to gain more control of the company, fail to get that control, and ultimately leave? Or would it have been rather inevitable that Jr. would leave to forge a winning name for himself independently of the house his daddy built?

I almost think he would have stayed and raced the better part of his career there (assuming his direction would have led to a few championships by him and Truex, Jr. or whoever else).

[egoldhyip]

I saw an interview on Speed with him and he seems like a decent kid. Hopefully he has more respect for the sport and gains the respect of the fans, unlike Busch.

There only seems to be a few guys who don't seem to have respect for the sport like Kyle and that's his brother Kurt, and his teammates dumber and dumbest.

That being said, I think it's pretty safe to assume he'll steer down a better path.

[iiilizium]

I always saw Dale as a guy that wasn't afraid of his dad's legacy. I'll explain.

Junior came across to me as a guy who had no problem living in the shadow of his father. He loved and respected his dad, and I think Dale just wanted to prove he could win. He tried to survive with DEI, but realized that he wouldn't be able to win, and left.

But I don't think it was out of disrespect to his dad or to "make his own name". I think it was purely for competitive purposes.

[ketNavatutt]

There only seems to be a few guys who don't seem to have respect for the sport like Kyle and that's his brother Kurt, and his teammates dumber and dumbest.

That being said, I think it's pretty safe to assume he'll steer down a better path.

It's a real shame, because it'd be nice to root for a guy like Busch. He's unbelievably talented and looks like he'll make a name for himself.

I hate it when people compare him to Dale Sr. at the same age. I wasn't alive when Dale was this age, but from what I've heard, he raced hard and pissed other people off, but he was a nice guy off the track. Busch is a douche on and off the track. Eventually he'll straighten up, but I think his reputation has been tarnished. Only time will tell.

[invasuant]

I always saw Dale as a guy that wasn't afraid of his dad's legacy. I'll explain.

Junior came across to me as a guy who had no problem living in the shadow of his father. He loved and respected his dad, and I think Dale just wanted to prove he could win. He tried to survive with DEI, but realized that he wouldn't be able to win, and left.

But I don't think it was out of disrespect to his dad or to "make his own name". I think it was purely for competitive purposes.

I guess I wasn't too clear on that. I agree 100% with what you posted here. I think we all know how much he loved and respected his dad and the Earnhardt legacy and being a part of that legacy for the foreseeable future wouldn't have pleased him more. However, the relationship he had with his step-mother (no matter how either of them painted it to be to the public) was stressed. He had a different philosophy of how the team should be run and the standards the teams should have been holding. I believe he wanted to get more say in the operations of the company so he could help ensure he would be able to have a better chance at winning with DEI. He knew the engine and development programs within DEI were second rate and he wanted to bump those up. DEI is in a worse spot this year, because Jr. isn't there. Mark Martin/Eric Almirola are in 24th, Menard is in 27th, and Truex, Jr. isn't even in the top 12. At least Jr. spent the better part of the year last year in the top 12 before falling out with help from that penalty.

I think ultimately he knew he had to really make a clean break and make his success away from DEI and his father's legacy.

[theatadug]

It's a real shame, because it'd be nice to root for a guy like Busch. He's unbelievably talented and looks like he'll make a name for himself.

I hate it when people compare him to Dale Sr. at the same age. I wasn't alive when Dale was this age, but from what I've heard, he raced hard and pissed other people off, but he was a nice guy off the track. Busch is a douche on and off the track. Eventually he'll straighten up, but I think his reputation has been tarnished. Only time will tell.

That's the thing, though. Sr. raced everyone hard and made no excuses. He rarely pulled punches off the track to cover his ass or make someone look bad unless someone gave him reason to. Sr. kept it on the track.

The biggest thing I see with Kyle is when he does the stupid shit he does and to who. He's done his stupid shit in the middle of the race when there was so much racing left to be done. He too often wants to win it on the first lap. It's not even like he's punting some guy who's ten laps down not being competitive at all and won't get out of the way, he's punting guys in the middle of the race who are battling with him for position or even trying to stay on the lead lap and be competitive. Then he doesn't really make any real attempt at making amends or taking responsibility, or acts as though he did nothing wrong and it was just hard racing.

[saruxanset]

Makes his Nationwide debut Saturday at Dover.

The next Kyle Busch?

[KernJetenue]

Makes his Nationwide debut Saturday at Dover.

The next Kyle Busch?

I hope he's not a dick like Kyle.

[AnthonyKing]

Um, can we let this nobody actually race a Nationwide race before we crown him?

Geezus. He has as much chance to be the next Paul Menard as he does to be the next Kyle Busch.

[untostaronaf]

Nice to see he has his head on straight, unlike that classless piece of shit that he bumped