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Old 02-14-2006, 07:44 PM   #41
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. In years past, we'd stay at this one landlord's vacated apartments, but this year I think we're camping out with the rednecks. .
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:06 PM   #42
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Jayski had this entry that he found

UPDATE NASCAR draws line on bump-drafting: NASCAR will post additional officials in the turns at Daytona International Speedway to monitor the act of bump-drafting between cars on the track, according to Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition for the sanctioning body. And left up to make the call, he said Tuesday, officials could penalize drivers for such contact. Pemberton said the officials would begin monitoring the situation beginning with Thursday's Gatorade Duals, twin 150-mile qualifying races that will set the remainder of the field for the Feb. 19 Daytona 500. "I think what we are going to do over the week as the races unfold," Pemberton said, "we may have some zones that we post added officials in where me might be forced to make a call of a bump draft that is unnecessary. The straightaways, obviously, don't appear to be a problem. But we're working on it. We've talked to the competitors about the problem and we may be put in the position that we have to make some calls that we really don't want to make."
The act of bump-drafting occurs when a driver makes contact with his and another vehicle in front of him on the race track with the front bumper of his car. The "hit" is normally used to push the car in front past a car beside it. The practice has become fairly common at Daytona and Talladega, however, following Sunday's Budweiser Shootout, defending series champion Tony Stewart said the act of bump drafting could lead to another death at the 2.5-mile track. As far as penalties are concerned, Pemberton said it could be "a pass through as far as coming down pit road. It could be anything. ... This is a serious matter. "Everybody has to remember, we don't drive these things. The drivers are in control, they have the pedals they can push and the steering wheel they can turn. To leave it in our hands when we're not out there ... they may get a call that they didn't bargain for."(NASCAR Scene)(2-14-2006)

I thought Robin Pemberton was smarter than that statement shows. The drivers do have the pedals in their control, but thanks to the restrictor plate, if they lift their foot off that little pedal on the right all hell will break loose as the entire field comes through that car, if he uses his left foot to press that middle pedal too much then you cause the car behind you to pop you in the bumper creating a bump draft that could put you into a bump draft with the car in front of you. Fix the rules to a point where the drivers have throttle respons, fix the rules to a point where the drivers have to lift off the throttle in the turns. If you can't fix the rules, fix the track.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:16 PM   #43
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I'm getting to the point of where I don't even get excited about the big tracks.

First, I think those races are boring (for about 90% of the race anyways).

Second, very seldom anymore do those races come down to the driver, or even the best car. It's all about who you know, and who you blow (just ask the Hendrix Teammates).

I should metion though that I do still like those races, I just don't get excited about them like I do some of the other tracks.
I find the big tracks boring as hell. then again, i have problems with jus going round and round turning left only in a race car too.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:36 PM   #44
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Jayski had this entry that he found

UPDATE NASCAR draws line on bump-drafting: NASCAR will post additional officials in the turns at Daytona International Speedway to monitor the act of bump-drafting between cars on the track, according to Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition for the sanctioning body. And left up to make the call, he said Tuesday, officials could penalize drivers for such contact. Pemberton said the officials would begin monitoring the situation beginning with Thursday's Gatorade Duals, twin 150-mile qualifying races that will set the remainder of the field for the Feb. 19 Daytona 500. "I think what we are going to do over the week as the races unfold," Pemberton said, "we may have some zones that we post added officials in where me might be forced to make a call of a bump draft that is unnecessary. The straightaways, obviously, don't appear to be a problem. But we're working on it. We've talked to the competitors about the problem and we may be put in the position that we have to make some calls that we really don't want to make."
The act of bump-drafting occurs when a driver makes contact with his and another vehicle in front of him on the race track with the front bumper of his car. The "hit" is normally used to push the car in front past a car beside it. The practice has become fairly common at Daytona and Talladega, however, following Sunday's Budweiser Shootout, defending series champion Tony Stewart said the act of bump drafting could lead to another death at the 2.5-mile track. As far as penalties are concerned, Pemberton said it could be "a pass through as far as coming down pit road. It could be anything. ... This is a serious matter. "Everybody has to remember, we don't drive these things. The drivers are in control, they have the pedals they can push and the steering wheel they can turn. To leave it in our hands when we're not out there ... they may get a call that they didn't bargain for."(NASCAR Scene)(2-14-2006)

I thought Robin Pemberton was smarter than that statement shows. The drivers do have the pedals in their control, but thanks to the restrictor plate, if they lift their foot off that little pedal on the right all hell will break loose as the entire field comes through that car, if he uses his left foot to press that middle pedal too much then you cause the car behind you to pop you in the bumper creating a bump draft that could put you into a bump draft with the car in front of you. Fix the rules to a point where the drivers have throttle respons, fix the rules to a point where the drivers have to lift off the throttle in the turns. If you can't fix the rules, fix the track.
No amount of bump drafting should be legal in the turns.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:38 PM   #45
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No amount of bump drafting should be legal in the turns.
that much is a given, if it is a cirucumstance of someone checking up in a corner then I would be hard pressed to issue a penalty, it is hard as hell to enforce unless they go to a zero tolerance policy and the lack of thought that goes along with that is right up the Daytona brass's alley
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:53 PM   #46
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If a bump is the result of somebody checking up in a corner and the contact was unavoidable, then Nascar shouldn't issue a penalty. If the bump wasn't the result of somebody checking up then there should be a penalty. I'm glad that Nascar is keeping a closer eye on this.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:08 PM   #47
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the part that bothers me is leaving it up to NASCAR's discretion
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:59 AM   #48
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the part that bothers me is leaving it up to NASCAR's discretion
Discretionary/judgement penalties are enforced in every sport.

I don't see why NASCAR should be different. If the drivers don't want to get penalized, then they need to take better care of their driving out there.
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:40 PM   #49
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Discretionary/judgement penalties are enforced in every sport.

I don't see why NASCAR should be different. If the drivers don't want to get penalized, then they need to take better care of their driving out there.
I know, it's just that NASCAR's discretion has been very much questionable in the past.
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