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**ssyyyrruho** · 02-14-2012, 05:18 AM

.. was it Norway or Estonia winning last rally?

Isn't that kind depressing? Seriously, when I feel like this, I usually dig my rally dvds and watch few rounds from the 90's and early 2000.

**bMc8F9ZI** · 02-14-2012, 05:19 AM

Wasn't it Belgium with Duval?!

**ssyyyrruho** · 02-14-2012, 05:27 AM

Might have been.

**Verriasana** · 02-14-2012, 05:27 AM

.. was it Norway or Estonia winning last rally?

Isn't that kind depressing? Seriously, when I feel like this, I usually dig my rally dvds and watch few rounds from the 90's and early 2000.

Belgium-Duval, Spain-Sordo, GreatBritain-Meeke, ...?
I think/hope it's going to change in the future with many young talented drivers now from various countries, to name only some: New-Zealand with Paddon, Belgium with Neuville, The Netherlands with Abbring or Weijs, Estonia with Tanak and Kaur, Great Britain with Breen, Norway with Mikkelsen, ... I'm sure that all drivers who are in a factory seat not (let's not count Mini with those) are there because of their talent, not nationality...

**Cyzkrahu** · 02-14-2012, 05:29 AM

Wasn't it Belgium with Duval?!

Think so, 2283 days ago.....

**Lapsiks** · 02-14-2012, 05:33 AM

Kinda sad really, doesnt feel like a world championship anymore

Saying that, it has been more a french rally championship in the most recent years!

**ssyyyrruho** · 02-14-2012, 05:35 AM

Of course, back in the good old days, teams offered more seats with special drivers. These days, they don't have the money ...

**ricochettty** · 02-14-2012, 05:38 AM

Indeed, it was Duval in Australia 2005!

**Lapsiks** · 02-14-2012, 05:41 AM

Indeed, it was Duval in Australia 2005!

That was his one and only win though wasnt it? He did keep things interesting in Germany though!

**limpoporanique** · 02-14-2012, 05:43 AM

Wonder who te next one is? Personally i hope for Russia!

**Cyzkrahu** · 02-14-2012, 05:48 AM

Correcting 2284 days (forgot time difference

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Hope Petter can erase this soon, Mexico?

**Lapsiks** · 02-14-2012, 05:52 AM

Correcting 2284 days (forgot time difference )

Hope Petter can erase this soon, Mexico?

Doubt it, not unless Ford can stop their engine from starving of oxygen everytime they compete in hills that are more than 3 metres above sea level

**Appeselve** · 02-14-2012, 06:26 AM

The sport needs more than Finns & the French to be considered a true World Championship. The sooner we see Belgians, Norwegians, Irish, Outer Mongolians the better....

**ZZtop** · 02-14-2012, 06:57 AM

Belgium-Duval, Spain-Sordo, GreatBritain-Meeke, ...?
I think/hope it's going to change in the future with many young talented drivers now from various countries, to name only some: New-Zealand with Paddon, Belgium with Neuville, The Netherlands with Abbring or Weijs, Estonia with Tanak and Kaur, Great Britain with Breen, Norway with Mikkelsen, ... I'm sure that all drivers who are in a factory seat not (let's not count Mini with those) are there because of their talent, not nationality...

What concerns Estonia, than forget Kaur. We have Koitla and Plangi who have shown more talent and killer-attitude. For these guys, it's all about money (like for most of young guns). I like Kaur, but he doesn't have the raw speed. Good solid driver for any national championship.

**perhilzit** · 02-14-2012, 07:18 AM

GreatBritain-Meeke, ...?
Great Britain with Breen

**MeatteCen** · 02-14-2012, 08:08 AM

2284 days

It was less that that. A couple of years ago Travis Pastrana's own web site listed him as 2007 World Champion....

For about 20 hours.

Does that count?

**Mehntswx** · 02-14-2012, 09:48 AM

.. was it Norway or Estonia winning last rally?

Isn't that kind depressing? Seriously, when I feel like this, I usually dig my rally dvds and watch few rounds from the 90's and early 2000.

There are many, many aspects of the WRC over the last 7 years or so which make me dig out those DVDs.

**AM1VV9r6** · 02-14-2012, 03:44 PM

Belgium-Duval, Spain-Sordo, GreatBritain-Meeke, ...?
I think/hope it's going to change in the future with many young talented drivers now from various countries, to name only some: New-Zealand with Paddon, Belgium with Neuville, The Netherlands with Abbring or Weijs, Estonia with Tanak and Kaur, Great Britain with Breen, Norway with Mikkelsen, ... I'm sure that all drivers who are in a factory seat not (let's not count Mini with those) are there because of their talent, not nationality...

Meeke and Breen are both Irish.

If you take out France and Finland, than it is Spain with Daniel Sordo in Monte-Carlo 2012 that won and Norway with Mads Østberg in the Wales Rally GB 2011 and the Rally Sweden 2012.

The last real victory in a WRC event for a not-Finnish and not-French driver is indeed François Duval in the Rally Australia 2005, but Duval (almost) only speaks French...

**Appeselve** · 02-14-2012, 03:59 PM

Meeke is from Dungannon, Northern Ireland. Breen is from the Irish Republic......

**AM1VV9r6** · 02-14-2012, 04:07 PM

I know, but Dungannon lays in a district from Ulster and Ulster is in Ireland...

02-14-2012, 05:18 AM	#1
ssyyyrruho Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	If we take out France and Finland... .. was it Norway or Estonia winning last rally? Isn't that kind depressing? Seriously, when I feel like this, I usually dig my rally dvds and watch few rounds from the 90's and early 2000. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:19 AM	#2
bMc8F9ZI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 512 Senior Member	Wasn't it Belgium with Duval?! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:27 AM	#3
ssyyyrruho Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	Might have been. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:27 AM	#4
Verriasana Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	.. was it Norway or Estonia winning last rally? Isn't that kind depressing? Seriously, when I feel like this, I usually dig my rally dvds and watch few rounds from the 90's and early 2000. Belgium-Duval, Spain-Sordo, GreatBritain-Meeke, ...? I think/hope it's going to change in the future with many young talented drivers now from various countries, to name only some: New-Zealand with Paddon, Belgium with Neuville, The Netherlands with Abbring or Weijs, Estonia with Tanak and Kaur, Great Britain with Breen, Norway with Mikkelsen, ... I'm sure that all drivers who are in a factory seat not (let's not count Mini with those) are there because of their talent, not nationality... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:29 AM	#5
Cyzkrahu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Wasn't it Belgium with Duval?! Think so, 2283 days ago..... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:33 AM	#6
Lapsiks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 725 Senior Member	Kinda sad really, doesnt feel like a world championship anymore Saying that, it has been more a french rally championship in the most recent years! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:35 AM	#7
ssyyyrruho Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	Of course, back in the good old days, teams offered more seats with special drivers. These days, they don't have the money ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:38 AM	#8
ricochettty Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 521 Senior Member	Indeed, it was Duval in Australia 2005! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:41 AM	#9
Lapsiks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 725 Senior Member	Indeed, it was Duval in Australia 2005! That was his one and only win though wasnt it? He did keep things interesting in Germany though! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:43 AM	#10
limpoporanique Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 483 Senior Member	Wonder who te next one is? Personally i hope for Russia! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:48 AM	#11
Cyzkrahu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Correcting 2284 days (forgot time difference ) Hope Petter can erase this soon, Mexico? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 05:52 AM	#12
Lapsiks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 725 Senior Member	Correcting 2284 days (forgot time difference ) Hope Petter can erase this soon, Mexico? Doubt it, not unless Ford can stop their engine from starving of oxygen everytime they compete in hills that are more than 3 metres above sea level Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 06:26 AM	#13
Appeselve Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	The sport needs more than Finns & the French to be considered a true World Championship. The sooner we see Belgians, Norwegians, Irish, Outer Mongolians the better.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 06:57 AM	#14
ZZtop Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	Belgium-Duval, Spain-Sordo, GreatBritain-Meeke, ...? I think/hope it's going to change in the future with many young talented drivers now from various countries, to name only some: New-Zealand with Paddon, Belgium with Neuville, The Netherlands with Abbring or Weijs, Estonia with Tanak and Kaur, Great Britain with Breen, Norway with Mikkelsen, ... I'm sure that all drivers who are in a factory seat not (let's not count Mini with those) are there because of their talent, not nationality... What concerns Estonia, than forget Kaur. We have Koitla and Plangi who have shown more talent and killer-attitude. For these guys, it's all about money (like for most of young guns). I like Kaur, but he doesn't have the raw speed. Good solid driver for any national championship. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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perhilzit Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 368 Senior Member	GreatBritain-Meeke, ...? Great Britain with Breen Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 08:08 AM	#16
MeatteCen Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	2284 days It was less that that. A couple of years ago Travis Pastrana's own web site listed him as 2007 World Champion.... For about 20 hours. Does that count? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 09:48 AM	#17
Mehntswx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	.. was it Norway or Estonia winning last rally? Isn't that kind depressing? Seriously, when I feel like this, I usually dig my rally dvds and watch few rounds from the 90's and early 2000. There are many, many aspects of the WRC over the last 7 years or so which make me dig out those DVDs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 03:44 PM	#18
AM1VV9r6 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	Belgium-Duval, Spain-Sordo, GreatBritain-Meeke, ...? I think/hope it's going to change in the future with many young talented drivers now from various countries, to name only some: New-Zealand with Paddon, Belgium with Neuville, The Netherlands with Abbring or Weijs, Estonia with Tanak and Kaur, Great Britain with Breen, Norway with Mikkelsen, ... I'm sure that all drivers who are in a factory seat not (let's not count Mini with those) are there because of their talent, not nationality... Meeke and Breen are both Irish. If you take out France and Finland, than it is Spain with Daniel Sordo in Monte-Carlo 2012 that won and Norway with Mads Østberg in the Wales Rally GB 2011 and the Rally Sweden 2012. The last real victory in a WRC event for a not-Finnish and not-French driver is indeed François Duval in the Rally Australia 2005, but Duval (almost) only speaks French... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 03:59 PM	#19
Appeselve Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	Meeke is from Dungannon, Northern Ireland. Breen is from the Irish Republic...... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-14-2012, 04:07 PM	#20
AM1VV9r6 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	I know, but Dungannon lays in a district from Ulster and Ulster is in Ireland... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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