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**RealCHEAPsoftDOWNLOAD** · 07-30-2011, 05:00 PM

Seb gets his car worked on to make wholesale changes through the Curfew as they're struggling against Ferrari and McLaren

Nothing about Webber though.

**bonyrek** · 07-30-2011, 05:18 PM

Crazy thought but maybe there was nothing wrong with Webber's car yesterday.

They're allowed 4 breaches of the curfew per season, and this was their first. No cause for panic or tinfoil hats just yet.

**RealCHEAPsoftDOWNLOAD** · 07-30-2011, 05:37 PM

I thought the curfew was to improve reliability or fix a damaged car. Apparently the work on Sebs was to find performance. Obviously Webber was fast enough for the Management

**bonyrek** · 07-30-2011, 07:45 PM

I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver.

**U2DnBGFE** · 07-30-2011, 09:06 PM

Obviously Webber was fast enough for the Management

Perhaps he was too fast?

**zithromaxlinks** · 07-30-2011, 09:08 PM

Seems as though the upgrades did the job for Seb over Mark.

Mark very honest on BBC, he said there was no way he could set a 1:19 and didn't know where those times came from.

**slimsex** · 07-30-2011, 09:11 PM

Ahh, so many delusional whiny brits, you'd think it was the world cup here already.

**GroosteFoessy** · 07-30-2011, 09:16 PM

I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver.

I couldn't agree more.

**htDgExh8** · 07-30-2011, 10:12 PM

The pole today was Sebs, not the car.

**zithromaxlinks** · 07-31-2011, 12:33 AM

I agree this is really all made up, the cars are the same as much as a racing car can be. I just believe Sebastian is the faster out and out driver. Just fun to joke about.

**JEWELMARGY** · 07-31-2011, 01:24 AM

I couldn't agree more.

Add me to that.

**GtmFeqJJ** · 07-31-2011, 05:39 AM

And the Ferrari,s 3 tenths of the pace,AND Massa in front of the Spaniard !

**JEWELMARGY** · 07-31-2011, 06:11 AM

And the Ferrari,s 3 tenths of the pace,AND Massa in front of the Spaniard !

Well obviously the honeymoon is over for Alonso and Ferrari are favouring Massa now.

**JessiPollo** · 07-31-2011, 10:04 AM

what a bunch of nonsense. Horner, now more than ever, refers to them both when talking good things.

For example, "we have no interest in having Hamilton replace either Seb or the other driver."

Another example, from Speed TV, after today's qualifying---Great compliements about both: "Both Seb and the other driver squeezed maximum performance out of their cars in qualifying"

As to massa, well u know how Hamailton likes to have phyiscal contact with massa, so he will be running the point for freddie. And no truth to rumors about the special vest he will be wearing for the race.

**qd0vhq4f** · 07-31-2011, 03:57 PM

I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver.

I agree.

**boiffrona** · 07-31-2011, 11:27 PM

Ahh, so many delusional whiny brits, you'd think it was the world cup here already.

I can't tolerate tiddlywinks.......

**Izzy** · 08-11-2011, 02:19 AM

I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver.

Being a lovely bloke and a good racer will not mean anything, if the team has to protect their golden boy. I think it is obvious that Vettel was the de facto nr.1 at Red Bull even before his first race.

**slimsex** · 08-15-2011, 05:53 PM

Being a lovely bloke and a good racer will not mean anything, if the team has to protect their golden boy. I think it is obvious that Vettel was the de facto nr.1 at Red Bull even before his first race.

The only thing red bull needs to "protect" Vettel from Webber is give him a car that doesn't fail mechanically.

**Annevecenqp** · 08-23-2011, 11:22 PM

Ahh, so many delusional whiny brits, you'd think it was the world cup here already.

Just for my own satisfaction, please explain "delusional whiny brits" you understand my curiosity right? What with Webber being an Ozzie and Vettel being a German and somewhat popular in the UK (compared to certain recent German superstars)
Nice flag btw.

**Soulofpostar** · 08-24-2011, 07:12 AM

Just for my own satisfaction, please explain "delusional whiny brits" you understand my curiosity right? What with Webber being an Ozzie and Vettel being a German and somewhat popular in the UK (compared to certain recent German superstars)
Nice flag btw.

You've just said exactly what I'm thinking

07-30-2011, 05:00 PM	#1
RealCHEAPsoftDOWNLOAD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 509 Senior Member	More evidence of a level playing field at Red Bull Seb gets his car worked on to make wholesale changes through the Curfew as they're struggling against Ferrari and McLaren Nothing about Webber though. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 05:18 PM	#2
bonyrek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Crazy thought but maybe there was nothing wrong with Webber's car yesterday. They're allowed 4 breaches of the curfew per season, and this was their first. No cause for panic or tinfoil hats just yet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 05:37 PM	#3
RealCHEAPsoftDOWNLOAD Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 509 Senior Member	I thought the curfew was to improve reliability or fix a damaged car. Apparently the work on Sebs was to find performance. Obviously Webber was fast enough for the Management Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 07:45 PM	#4
bonyrek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 09:06 PM	#5
U2DnBGFE Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 901 Senior Member	Obviously Webber was fast enough for the Management Perhaps he was too fast? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 09:08 PM	#6
zithromaxlinks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 560 Senior Member	Seems as though the upgrades did the job for Seb over Mark. Mark very honest on BBC, he said there was no way he could set a 1:19 and didn't know where those times came from. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 09:11 PM	#7
slimsex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	Ahh, so many delusional whiny brits, you'd think it was the world cup here already. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-30-2011, 09:16 PM	#8
GroosteFoessy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver. I couldn't agree more. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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htDgExh8 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	The pole today was Sebs, not the car. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2011, 12:33 AM	#10
zithromaxlinks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 560 Senior Member	I agree this is really all made up, the cars are the same as much as a racing car can be. I just believe Sebastian is the faster out and out driver. Just fun to joke about. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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JEWELMARGY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	I couldn't agree more. Add me to that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2011, 05:39 AM	#12
GtmFeqJJ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 508 Senior Member	And the Ferrari,s 3 tenths of the pace,AND Massa in front of the Spaniard ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2011, 06:11 AM	#13
JEWELMARGY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	And the Ferrari,s 3 tenths of the pace,AND Massa in front of the Spaniard ! Well obviously the honeymoon is over for Alonso and Ferrari are favouring Massa now. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2011, 10:04 AM	#14
JessiPollo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	what a bunch of nonsense. Horner, now more than ever, refers to them both when talking good things. For example, "we have no interest in having Hamilton replace either Seb or the other driver." Another example, from Speed TV, after today's qualifying---Great compliements about both: "Both Seb and the other driver squeezed maximum performance out of their cars in qualifying" As to massa, well u know how Hamailton likes to have phyiscal contact with massa, so he will be running the point for freddie. And no truth to rumors about the special vest he will be wearing for the race. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2011, 03:57 PM	#15
qd0vhq4f Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 585 Senior Member	I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver. I agree. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-31-2011, 11:27 PM	#16
boiffrona Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 606 Senior Member	Ahh, so many delusional whiny brits, you'd think it was the world cup here already. I can't tolerate tiddlywinks....... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-11-2011, 02:19 AM	#17
Izzy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 652 Senior Member	I'm sorry but I don't buy all this conspiracy BS. Webber's a lovely bloke and a damned good racer with an excellent work rate. But Vettel is, in my opinion, simply a better driver. Being a lovely bloke and a good racer will not mean anything, if the team has to protect their golden boy. I think it is obvious that Vettel was the de facto nr.1 at Red Bull even before his first race. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-15-2011, 05:53 PM	#18
slimsex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	Being a lovely bloke and a good racer will not mean anything, if the team has to protect their golden boy. I think it is obvious that Vettel was the de facto nr.1 at Red Bull even before his first race. The only thing red bull needs to "protect" Vettel from Webber is give him a car that doesn't fail mechanically. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-23-2011, 11:22 PM	#19
Annevecenqp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 354 Senior Member	Ahh, so many delusional whiny brits, you'd think it was the world cup here already. Just for my own satisfaction, please explain "delusional whiny brits" you understand my curiosity right? What with Webber being an Ozzie and Vettel being a German and somewhat popular in the UK (compared to certain recent German superstars) Nice flag btw. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-24-2011, 07:12 AM	#20
Soulofpostar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	Just for my own satisfaction, please explain "delusional whiny brits" you understand my curiosity right? What with Webber being an Ozzie and Vettel being a German and somewhat popular in the UK (compared to certain recent German superstars) Nice flag btw. You've just said exactly what I'm thinking Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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