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Old 05-08-2011, 10:08 PM   #21
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Did you actually see it? Clearly after he'd stopped he took his foot off the brake, and clutch drag caused the wheel to spin. If he'd kept his foot on the brake the wheel could not have spun.
I didn't. OneHD's Live Streaming Servers crashed and we missed heaps.

Donkey of the race for me was OneHD, the broadcaster in Australia. This was quite literally the worst broadcast I have ever seen of any sporting event in my lifetime.
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Old 05-08-2011, 10:10 PM   #22
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But then again as I said each to his own and I am glad I don't care about the red team anymore.
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Old 05-08-2011, 10:52 PM   #23
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I think Schumi was at fault against Petrov, but his other incidents were more people bashing him so although he had a poor race, lets not say he was at fault for all.

As for my Donkey.

Ferrari tarffic light system.
Liuzzi (He may have had issues but finished 2 laps behind his team mate and 5 laps down on Vettel).

Not many others really.

Maldonado looked poor but then Rubens only finished a couple of places ahead.
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Old 05-08-2011, 11:31 PM   #24
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Petrov.

He straight lined the corner, and had over cooked it, slamming on the brakes, when he went past MS.

MS should have done a better job of dealing with his stupid move but did not.

Then he banged into his team mate and pushed NH into pit lane.....


then there is the ferrari pit strangeness for massa...opps i mean strategy for Massa
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Old 05-08-2011, 11:33 PM   #25
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Can we just choose KERS and DRS and be done with it? I have never been left so cold by an F1 race with that amount of overtaking.
yeah, I had the same feeling. Should have been very very exciting, but it just was not........
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:35 AM   #26
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Did you actually see it? Clearly after he'd stopped he took his foot off the brake, and clutch drag caused the wheel to spin. If he'd kept his foot on the brake the wheel could not have spun.

I couldn't say whether this was Felipe's fault without knowing whether he was supposed to release the brakes or not. It may be that they would normally release the brakes to prevent boiling the fluid, in which case the cause would be a clutch problem.
I guess his "engineer" was not talking to him at that moment
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:40 AM   #27
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I have no complaints about Kers and DRS, maybe it was a bit easy in this race, due to its placement and that the effect would be even more advantageous because the zone starts on an incline. BUT its time to quit complaining about kers, DRS or pirelli tyres. We are 4 races into the season and this is the reality.

To me the Donkey goes to MSC ( who i actually sorta root for to do well these days ) too aggressive and a few to many errors. He's got to know when the battle is over and concentrate on the next fight, and with a guy with so much experience, he should know races are long and not won in the first lap. Especially this year.

The other Donkeys are the mclaren and ferrari pit crews who cost their drivers positions, although the final massa pit problem was his own fault.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:47 AM   #28
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I have no complaints about Kers and DRS, maybe it was a bit easy in this race, due to its placement and that the effect would be even more advantageous because the zone starts on an incline. BUT its time to quit complaining about kers, DRS or pirelli tyres. We are 4 races into the season and this is the reality.
But I, and seemingly many others, don't believe this should be the reality. Therefore I will not cease complaining about it.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:42 AM   #29
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Petrov.

He straight lined the corner, and had over cooked it, slamming on the brakes, when he went past MS.

MS should have done a better job of dealing with his stupid move but did not.

Then he banged into his team mate and pushed NH into pit lane.....
How can you say he straight-lined the corner? Clearly, Schumacher hit him first, after VP blew by him, and MS forced the Russian to go straight. MS even admitted the incident was his fault.

As for Nick, he took a chance on the outside line, didn't have the speed to stay alongside, and lost. Vitaly had the inside line, and on exit had his rear wheels even with Nick's fronts. The German had to back off.

VP was up to 5th at one point, ahead of Button, Massa, Nico, and Nick.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:10 AM   #30
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I didnīt liked the three stop strategy for Jenson, he could have been fourth.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:12 AM   #31
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I think Schumi was at fault against Petrov, ...
Huh?

Schumi was turning in and Petrov outbreaked himself and run straight through the corner collecting MS' front wing in the process.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:13 AM   #32
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Petrov.

He straight lined the corner, and had over cooked it, slamming on the brakes, when he went past MS.

MS should have done a better job of dealing with his stupid move but did not.

Then he banged into his team mate and pushed NH into pit lane.....


then there is the ferrari pit strangeness for massa...opps i mean strategy for Massa
^^^ This!
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:14 AM   #33
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How can you say he straight-lined the corner? Clearly, Schumacher hit him first...
Watch it again, than we can discuss it maybe.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:15 AM   #34
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I didnīt liked the three stop strategy for Jenson, he could have been fourth.
With the Pirelli's it's a lottery. If you're lucky the tires hold a bit better, if not they are crap like most of the time.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:38 AM   #35
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Pirelli for making softs that last the same amount of time as hards
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:40 AM   #36
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What a sh!tbag Schumacher is. The overrated idiot constantly turns down into people passing him.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:52 AM   #37
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How can you say he straight-lined the corner? Clearly, Schumacher hit him first, after VP blew by him, and MS forced the Russian to go straight. MS even admitted the incident was his fault.

As for Nick, he took a chance on the outside line, didn't have the speed to stay alongside, and lost. Vitaly had the inside line, and on exit had his rear wheels even with Nick's fronts. The German had to back off.

VP was up to 5th at one point, ahead of Button, Massa, Nico, and Nick.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:53 AM   #38
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Pirelli for making softs that last the same amount of time as hards
fair enough,

I thought the hard would last longer and the softs shorter too for this race
oh well,on to spain
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:31 AM   #39
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Huh?

Schumi was turning in and Petrov outbreaked himself and run straight through the corner collecting MS' front wing in the process.
I agree Petrov came in too hot, I thought Schumi caused a problem for himself as he misjudged Vitaly's mistake and turned in too soon and damaged his wing. If he'd have just waited a fraction more he could have ducked under Vitaly and left him to sort himself out.

I watched an interview on BBC with Michael afterwards and he said it was his mistake turning in too soon.

I only put him at fault based on his admission that he made a slight error of timing that ultimatley cost him 20 seconds in the pits.
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:02 AM   #40
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Can we just choose KERS and DRS and be done with it? I have never been left so cold by an F1 race with that amount of overtaking.
I think it is the tires more than kers and drs, although I will agree that drs is unnecessary.
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