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Old 03-27-2011, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default Sauber DQ'd from Australian GP
So Sauber have been DQ'd for a technical infringement related to their rear wing

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90294

Such a shame given Perez's strong debut in F1
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:43 PM   #2
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Desperately disappointing for Perez, he didn't deserve that.
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:03 PM   #3
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Reminds me that Kubica got DQ'd from P7 on his Grand Prix debut as well...

But feel really sorry for the drivers. They deserved those points!
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:08 PM   #4
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Shame, but rules are rules
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:25 PM   #5
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Shame, but rules are rules
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/ru.../8688/fia.html
24) SCRUTINEERING
24.1 Between 10.00 and 16.00 three days before the race (four days in Monaco) initial scrutineering of all cars will take place in the garage assigned to each competitor.
24.2 Unless a waiver is granted by the stewards, competitors who do not keep to these time limits will not be allowed to take part in the Event.
24.3 No car may take part in the Event until it has been passed by the scrutineers.
24.4 The scrutineers may :
a) check the eligibility of a car or of a competitor at any time during an Event ;
b) require a car to be dismantled by the competitor to make sure that the conditions of eligibility or conformity are fully satisfied ;
c) require a competitor to pay the reasonable expenses which exercise of the powers mentioned in this Article may entail ;
d) require a competitor to supply them with such parts or samples as they may deem necessary.
24.5 Any car which, after being passed by the scrutineers, is dismantled or modified in a way which might affect its safety or call into question its eligibility, or which is involved in an accident with similar consequences, must be re-presented for scrutineering approval.
Any such re-scrutineering may only take place with the consent of the stewards (following a written request from a competitor) and will be carried out the next morning.
24.6 The race director or the clerk of the course may require that any car involved in an accident be stopped and checked.
24.7 Checks and scrutineering shall be carried out by duly appointed officials who shall also be responsible for the operation of the parc fermé and who alone are authorised to give instructions to the competitors.
24.8 The stewards will publish the findings of the scrutineers each time cars are checked during the Event. These results will not include any specific figure except when a car is found to be in breach of the Technical Regulations.
Q: did newey dob ?
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Old 03-27-2011, 09:06 PM   #6
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The last driver to be disqualified in his first GP was Robert Kubica. This might be a good omen - this kid's got a future!
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:32 PM   #7
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Why would Newey dob?

More likely Ferrari, STR or Force India one would assume. Whichever way, really dissapointing and annoying, I'm gutted for Sauber, Kamui and especially Sergio. But, rules are there to be stuck to and enforced so really, It's someone within Sauber's own fault.
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:13 PM   #8
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ridiculous

once again the FIA has found a way to ruin everyone's weekend with some pathetic supposed rule infringement

Now haven;t these cars been inspected and did they not pass all the requirements before being on the track Friday?

What is this nonsense?

Once again Massa taking advantage of others being DQ'd for a completely undeserved additional points

one can only hope that Sauber win their appeal
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:44 AM   #9
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Its a real shame for Kamui and Sergio as they both drove well and deserved there points, but as Sauber broke the rules there appears no choice.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:56 AM   #10
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Interesting, especially after Sauber's rear wing was scrutinized after Qualy:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...ocument-40.pdf

After the qualifying practice session:
Car numbers 01, 02, 03,04, 05, 06, 08, 10, 16 and 18 were weighed.
Car numbers 01, 02, 03,04, 05, 06, 08, 10, 16 and 18 were checked for the following:
1) Bodywork around the front wheels
2) Front wing height and overhang
3) Rear wing height and overhang
4) Front and rear wing width
5) Rear wing configuration
6) Rear bodywork area
7) Rear winglet height
8) Stepped bottom
9) Diffuser height
10) Diffuser width
11) Overall height
12) Overall width
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:33 AM   #11
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Interesting, especially after Sauber's rear wing was scrutinized after Qualy:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...ocument-40.pdf
This was exactly my thoughts. very odd
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:38 AM   #12
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They're going to appeal the decision http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90300

Not sure how they'll get away with it, even if there was no advantage gained they broke the rules. The other 20 cars had legal wings.
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Old 03-28-2011, 03:07 AM   #13
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Interesting, especially after Sauber's rear wing was scrutinized after Qualy:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...ocument-40.pdf
Thanks for posting this ioan, I was beginning to think the FIA's pre-race scrutineering consisted of "does it have wheels? Yes. Ok, pass."

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Old 03-28-2011, 04:07 AM   #14
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Thanks for posting this ioan, I was beginning to think the FIA's pre-race scrutineering consisted of "does it have wheels? Yes. Ok, pass."

Next time Sauber hook their car up to the 'net, a yellow shield will pop up in the task bar to indicate a firmware update is available. On the basis the SW was developed in conjuntion with MS, no doubt the reboot will occur mid-race in Sepang, upon reboot and seven subsequent BSOD's, the message 'an unspecified error has occured 0x000008f' will show on the steering wheel screen!!!!!!
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:17 AM   #15
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ridiculous

once again the FIA has found a way to ruin everyone's weekend with some pathetic supposed rule infringement
That's FIA for you.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:24 AM   #16
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Why would Newey dob?

More likely Ferrari, STR or Force India one would assume. Whichever way, really dissapointing and annoying, I'm gutted for Sauber, Kamui and especially Sergio. But, rules are there to be stuck to and enforced so really, It's someone within Sauber's own fault.


they use voice recognition software agreed should be grid
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:59 AM   #17
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Thanks for posting this ioan, I was beginning to think the FIA's pre-race scrutineering consisted of "does it have wheels? Yes. Ok, pass."

In all honesty it doesn't seem to be any bit more serious than that anyway.
Both Saubers passed the scrutinizing on Saturday after qualy, than the same tests yielded another result on Sunday even though the wings were not changed due to parc ferme rules.
Go figure!

Given this situation I believe that Sauber have a slim chance to get back their results.
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Old 03-28-2011, 08:26 AM   #18
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This is what confuses me about the FIA. Either the cars were legal or they were not. With the parc freme rules it's obvious that Sauber didn't change the wing that had already been deemed legal. After the race the wing is deemed not legal.

Shame for both the team and the drivers, but to me more shame on the FIA for not citing the problem during the first inspection.
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:53 AM   #19
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Boo!
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Old 03-28-2011, 10:31 AM   #20
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What kind of a time frame we looking at to know the results of the appeal, have they filed it yet?
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