Pirelli
 

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87984

YAY! http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...es/biggrin.gif

Although the cynic in me thinks they just have cr@p tyres and don't want the bad press. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...s/rolleyes.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

Whatever the reason it seems the majority of fans will be happy; quickly degrading softs and hard as nails primes.

They should ditch the mandatory 2 types of tyre rule during the race. It's pointless.

I agree. Let the teams use all four compounds during a race. Make the compounds significantly different and it's up to the teams/drivers to gamble on which compound they can get to work best.

You might get different strategies that way - some teams going for a harder compund and trying to run the whole race without a stop and others going for a softer compund and trying to buildup a gap before having to stop.

Worst case we get what we have now which is everybody pretty much on the same strategy. Can't hurt to try.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. With less compounds available, Bridgestone/Pirelli don't have to pay to ship as many tires.

I agree with this

I also applaud Pirelli with this Idea, and hope they get the support they need. It good add a real tyre element to F1 rather than this forced stop rule.

Pirelli are just making excuses because of the crap tyres they make

I suspect you're probably right. but Bridgestone tyres seem too good sometimes, so it's a fine balance. lets hope they are not awful, that would be a travesty and a joke for F1.

Look on the bright side.

The accuracy of the predictions on here amaze me.
TGF was going to blow Nico into the tub. How did that work out?
The Cosworth engine was garbage and would be at the back of the field. How did that work out?
Might we wait and see just what Pirelli produce before we proclaim them crap?

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A quick note: I believe that the Cosworth engine is the worst of the field. However, given that we've only got the Williams, it's very difficult to draw a comparison.

What you say is perfectly true, though the recent announcement does indicate poor tyres you have to admit. however, if they have planned it this way to make a tyre that is hard to look after etc etc, then kudos to them.

Most likely.

There's at least 6 of them propping up the grid. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...es/biggrin.gif

Vettel fastest in the first morning test :

1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1m40.861s
2. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m40.913s
3. Robert Kubica Renault 1m41.032s
4. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1m41.466s
5. Gary Paffett McLaren 1m41.588s
6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m41.978s
7. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1m42.642s
8. Rubens Barrichello Williams 1m42.655s
9. Adrian Sutil Force India 1m42.859s
10. Timo Glock Virgin 1m45.057s
11. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus 1m46.201s
12. Pastor Maldonado Hispania 1m46.534s


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88407

Pos Driver Car Time Laps
1. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1m38.102s 77
2. Jerome D'Ambrosio Renault 1m38.802s 83
3. Sam Bird Mercedes 1m39.220s 82
4. Gary Paffett McLaren 1m39.760s 84
5. Jules Bianchi Ferrari 1m39.916s 93
6. Sergio Perez Sauber 1m40.543s 91
7. Paul di Resta Force India 1m40.901s 27
8. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1m40.944s 81
9. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1m40.974s 61
10. Yelmer Buurman Force India 1m41.178s 67
11. Davide Valsecchi Hispania 1m43.013s 32
12. Luiz Razia Virgin 1m43.525s 70
13. Josef Kral Hispania 1m44.143s 61
14. Rodolfo Gonzalez Lotus 1m44.312s 41
15. Vladimir Arabadzhiev Lotus 1m45.723s 49

Does this tell us anything?

Yes the Pirelli's are very different on cars that weren't designed for them.

I'm worried a little by the message as I don't want to see competition falsly engineered into the sport.

If it was a sh*t hot tyre that was a second a lap quicker but lasted only up to a 1/3 distance and a harder tyre that if MANAGED could do a full distance but was a second slower and ripped up if you abused it, then that could be interesting.

I was less than impressed with the tyres this year where we were hearing that the softs were good for 3 or 4 laps but then we had people doing almost full race distance with very little degredation. That's just silly.

They have history, that's why they don't like competition....(control tyre formula are normally their thing).

2nd session :

1. Massa Ferrari 1’40”170
2. Vettel Red Bull 1’40”500
3. Paffett McLaren 1’40”874
4. Kobayashi Sauber 1”40”950
5. Kubica Renault 1’41”032
6. Barrichello Williams 1’41”425
7. di Resta Force India 1’41”615
8. Rosberg Mercedes 1’41”778
9. Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1’42”019
10. Sutil Force India 1’42”859
11. Glock Virgin 1’44”124
12. Kovalainen Lotus 1’44”686
13. Maldonado Hispania 1’45”728