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Old 11-29-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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Sebastian Vettel, he has just won his first world championship with Red Bull, the team and organisation that plucked him as a young kid and developed him into the 2010 World Champion. Vettel owes everything he is to the Red Bull Racing and the broader Red Bull motorsport programs.

So why then, only a couple of weeks after winning his first title, would he turn around and say that he wants to drive for Ferrari or even Mercedes? I mean why?

And why, given this information, were Red Bull so keen to make him the clear number 1 in their team over Webber and "build the team around him for the future" - Horner's words, not mine.

Calls into question a lot of things at Red Bull, they are the best team in Formula One at the moment, they should have enough belief in themselfs that they are the big guns in the sport now and don't have to compete with the likes of Mclaren and Ferrari for drivers hearts.

Mclaren or Ferrari would never tolerate such comments from their drivers, so why would Red Bull? Particularly after all of the drama this season around their support of Vettel over Webber?

Crazy stuff

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...D=395750&FS=F1
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:42 PM   #2
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So in other words, drivers can't dream about racing for one of the top teams in the future? He must spend the next 15 years where he is and not try a new challenge in the future?

I can't wait for the off season to finish so this cr@p can stop...
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:04 PM   #3
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Yes you can dream, and no you don't need to stay with the one team forever, but you don't go around saying how much you want to drive for another team when you've a) just won the title with your current team and b) under contract for another 2 years.

It's pretty disrespectful to the team who has just delivered you a world championship. If you where working you guts out back in the factory of Red Bull Racing, how would you feel about your current world champion saying how much he'd like to drive for your main rival?

It would be like a Manchester United player saying saying how much he'd like to play for Chelsea, 2 weeks after winning the premiership. It just wouldn't happen.

Think about Red Bull Racing, having your world champion saying how much he'd like to drive for another team would hardly be good for trying to attract big name sponsors to long term deals. "Why would we sign up for a 3 year deal? Sounds like Vettel's will be going to Ferrari or Mercedes in 2 years time..."
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:39 PM   #4
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What driver doesn't grow up dreaming of driving for the most storied name in all of f1?
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:07 PM   #5
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Fernando spent much of the past few years saying how much he admired Ferrari and hoped to drive for them someday. I don't recall anyone criticising him - got why am I defending Fred?
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:11 PM   #6
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Lets see now, Vettel is just 23, has been with the team a few years already and won the title for them... he is deeply committed to the team for the foreseeable future and hopes to defend and retain his title with Red Bull.

He revealed that he has dreamed of driving for the teams of his F1 hero's... no doubt as he was growing up the exploits of Schumacher at Ferrari made a huge impression on him, where was Red Bull racing in F1... didn't exist so why would he (or any kid) dream of driving for Red Bull.

Of course today the RBR team look very good to the new generation of teen fans.

Times have changed, and although he may dream of some day driving for the teams of childhood, it is up to them to make driving for them attractive, Vettel is in the best team for him and that won't change for a few years.

Why should he stay with Red Bull for the next 15 years, if in 5 years he has multiple championships with Red Bull he may well feel he has rewarded RBR for their support to him and feel the time is right to try a new challenge (he would not be the first)...
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:06 AM   #7
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Sebastian Vettel, he has just won his first world championship with Red Bull, the team and organisation that plucked him as a young kid and developed him into the 2010 World Champion. Vettel owes everything he is to the Red Bull Racing and the broader Red Bull motorsport programs.

So why then, only a couple of weeks after winning his first title, would he turn around and say that he wants to drive for Ferrari or even Mercedes? I mean why?

And why, given this information, were Red Bull so keen to make him the clear number 1 in their team over Webber and "build the team around him for the future" - Horner's words, not mine.

Calls into question a lot of things at Red Bull, they are the best team in Formula One at the moment, they should have enough belief in themselfs that they are the big guns in the sport now and don't have to compete with the likes of Mclaren and Ferrari for drivers hearts.

Mclaren or Ferrari would never tolerate such comments from their drivers, so why would Red Bull? Particularly after all of the drama this season around their support of Vettel over Webber?

Crazy stuff

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...D=395750&FS=F1
And you swear that you're not just another disgruntled and bitter Webber fan?!
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:10 AM   #8
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And you swear that you're not just another disgruntled and bitter Webber fan?!
I know I am!
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:13 AM   #9
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What driver doesn't grow up dreaming of driving for the most storied name in all of f1?
Exactly. All drivers have dreamt about driving for a top team as a youngster. Hamilton spent his childhood dreaming about driving a Mclaren, Vettel a Ferrari. I bet every driver on the grid given half the chance would drive for either Ferrari or Mclaren if they were asked tomorrow. Its abit of a non story really.

PS: He does use the term "one day".
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:13 AM   #10
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I know I am!
You should start a thread to bash Vettel ASAP!
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:44 AM   #11
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Fernando spent much of the past few years saying how much he admired Ferrari and hoped to drive for them someday. I don't recall anyone criticising him - got why am I defending Fred?
Like me, if you're defending Alonso, you must have a really great point. OK, so I may not know what it is just now, but dammit, I know it's gotta be legit!!!
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:21 AM   #12
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What driver doesn't grow up dreaming of driving for the most storied name in all of f1?
Lewis Hamilton.
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:35 AM   #13
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where was Red Bull racing in F1... didn't exist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauber
The 1995 season and Sauber C14 marked the beginning of a ten year sponsorship deal with energy drink giants Red Bull. In fact entrepreneur Dietrich Mateschitz had purchased a majority share in the team
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:43 AM   #14
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There is always an exception to any rule... personaly I'd say Lewis probably did... just he would never admit to it so long as he is still driving for uncle Ron.

But either way not dreaming of it as a kid is not to say he would pass up the chance at some future date.
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:50 AM   #15
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Good find...

but surely you grasped that I was referring to Red Bull as an F1 racing team and not simply as a sponsor...

Of course RBR have evolved into an exciting vibrant team and I’m sure they are the object of many a young mans F1 aspirations now.
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:25 AM   #16
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I'm more refering to the timing of his statements, when you've just won the title for red bull, is it REALLY appropriate to be talking about how much you want to drive for their main rivals?

I have no problem with him wanting to drive for Ferrari or any other team for that matter, but there is a time and a place don't you think?
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:38 AM   #17
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I suspect that he was answering a direct question put to him... he may also be playing hard ball.... RBR will have to keep on top of their game if they are to keep him beyond his contract... what better time to 'remind' them than when you have delivered the team both championships...

I guessing he got their attention.
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Old 11-30-2010, 01:17 PM   #18
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It´s old news that MacLaren are interested in Seb.

Wonder if Seb will get along with Lewis, a kid younger and faster than himself is not a drem for Lewis.
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Old 11-30-2010, 02:22 PM   #19
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It´s old news that MacLaren are interested in Seb.

Wonder if Seb will get along with Lewis, a kid younger and faster than himself is not a drem for Lewis.
There's only 2 years difference between Seb and Lewis and that makes little difference. If Mclaren build one car for Seb with the dominance of the RB6 and a slower car for Lewis, Seb is always going to be faster. Remember Jenson Button was the fastest driver in F1 in 2009.
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:45 PM   #20
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I suspect that he was answering a direct question put to him...
As simple as that I'd suspect. No surprise to hear a driver say they'd like to drive for Ferrari at some point during their career and I don't think the timing of Vettel's comments are significant.
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