[gghrdfffhfyj]

I've been trying to find an updated list of each driver and the # of engines used per the regulations and am having no luck. Can anyone find/post this info? I believe it is a MAJOR factor in this championship, and it would be nice to be able to keep track of this statistic.

[F1grandprix]

There was mention of some drivers's engine count on a Finnish news site.
Alonso 8
Massa 8
Button 7
Hamilton 7
Vettel 7
Webber 6

[gugamotina]

Nice some grid penalties coming pretty soon, I'm glad webber has 2 engines to go, Go Mark!

[sitescools]

Nice some grid penalties coming pretty soon, I'm glad webber has 2 engines to go, Go Mark!

as far as I know it doesn´t mean that much (this count) since teams can use them whenever they see it fit so they can change them just to use them in more even way according to the specs of the track.... or maybe I'm wrong

[sleepergun]

as far as I know it doesn´t mean that much (this count) since teams can use them whenever they see it fit so they can change them just to use them in more even way according to the specs of the track.... or maybe I'm wrong

No, you're correct. As an example, a team could come to its last engine and then go back and use engine #4 again for the next race. Until they use an extra engine, there would be no penalty.

[gghrdfffhfyj]

It is true that teams can bolt a used engine back in, but an accurate count gives us some indication of where a team stands. I expect to see some blown engines/penalties coming into play with a huge effect on the championship. Webber having 2 engines with no mileage is a boost to his WDC chances.

[WhonyGataxott]

They sure can use them again, however once built up a F1 engine needs to be used every now and then otherwise it will brake after few laps if left to sit for several months.

Ferrari sure look to be in a rather bad situation with 5 races to go.

[Roker]

And for what it's worth (since he's not in title contention) Pedro de la Rosa is already on number 9 out of 8. Note to Sauber: replacing him with Nick Heidfeld won't work, the engines go with the car rather than the driver. Hopefully they realise this

[nikolapegayyyaasss]

There was mention of some drivers's engine count on a Finnish news site.
Alonso 8
Massa 8
Button 7
Hamilton 7
Vettel 7
Webber 6

Pedro de la Rosa 9
Q: if Heidfeld takes over the car will the engine count reset ?

[Sarbrienna]

They sure can use them again, however once built up a F1 engine needs to be used every now and then otherwise it will brake after few laps if left to sit for several months.

Ferrari sure look to be in a rather bad situation with 5 races to go.

WOW now you are a engine guy too. You multi talented

[Affiltavajefe]

No need to go looking on news sites, the race technical report is right there on the FIA website!
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...ace-report.pdf
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01 McLaren Mercedes     Jenson Button      7 02 McLaren Mercedes     Lewis Hamilton     7 03 Mercedes Benz        Michael Schumacher 7 04 Mercedes Benz        Nico Rosberg       7 05 RBR Renault          Sebastian Vettel   7 06 RBR Renault          Mark Webber        6 07 Ferrari              Felipe Massa       8 08 Ferrari              Fernando Alonso    8 09 Williams Cosworth    Rubens Barrichello 6 10 Williams Cosworth    Nico Hülkenberg    7 11 Renault              Robert Kubica      6 12 Renault              Vitaly Pertrov     6 14 Force India Mercedes Adrian Sutil       7 15 Force India Mercedes Vitantonio Liuzzi  7 16 STR Ferrari          Sébastien Buemi    7 17 STR Ferrari          Jaime Alguersuari  7 18 Lotus Cosworth       Jarno Trulli       7 19 Lotus Cosworth       Heikki Kovalainen  7 20 HRT Cosworth         Sakon Yamamoto     7 21 HRT Cosworth         Bruno Senna        7 22 BMW Sauber Ferrari   Pedro De La Rosa   9 23 BMW Sauber Ferrari   Kamui Kobayashi    7 24 Virgin Cosworth      Timo Glock         7 25 Virgin Cosworth      Lucas Di Grassi    7

(Takes a little putting together as typically FIA they give you the pre-race numbers and then who's used new engines and no post race numbers)

[Affiltavajefe]

Renault are best places with two fresh engines for the remainder of the year. The rest of the teams have a single fresh engine for the remaining 5 races.
Ferrari are in the worst position as they've used their allowance of new engines now and only have used engines to choose from.

Also interestingly Webber has an engine in hand over Vettel.

[sitescools]

I've seen a table somewhere on this forum on another thread where you could actually see which engine they used at each race but can't find it anymore. That would give us a much clearer image of how things stand... I think. All teams have only 8 engines per car so they all have to use some engines for 2 and some for 3 races... so one team that has used 7 or 8 engines and all of them are still good is in a better situation than one which has used 6 and all of them are broken... probably.

[SeftyJokipl]

They sure can use them again, however once built up a F1 engine needs to be used every now and then otherwise it will brake after few laps if left to sit for several months.

Ferrari sure look to be in a rather bad situation with 5 races to go.

I´ve reading this to. They can´t use an engine they have putted to rest to far back, thoose engines are on the edge.

[Affiltavajefe]

They sure can use them again, however once built up a F1 engine needs to be used every now and then otherwise it will brake after few laps if left to sit for several months.

Ferrari sure look to be in a rather bad situation with 5 races to go.

How far ahead are engines built? Is it the case that they have to be machined and then used within a certain time, or does the use of an engine introduce contaniments into it which start a degradation process?

A lot of teams will also be running with 'old' engines in free practice sessions. When do you have to bolt in the engine you are going to use for the race? Before Q1?

[nikolapegayyyaasss]

I've seen a table somewhere on this forum on another thread where you could actually see which engine they used at each race but can't find it anymore. That would give us a much clearer image of how things stand... I think. All teams have only 8 engines per car so they all have to use some engines for 2 and some for 3 races... so one team that has used 7 or 8 engines and all of them are still good is in a better situation than one which has used 6 and all of them are broken... probably.

this may be the link to the table

http://www.vivaf1.com/engine.php




Engine Cars

[mpzoFeJs]

Pedro de la Rosa 9
Q: if Heidfeld takes over the car will the engine count reset ?

No, he will continue with DLR's engine count. Otherwise teams could race with a more powerful yet less reliable engine and keep changing drivers in the season without penalty.

[Affiltavajefe]

Engines reliability these days is extraordinary compared to what it used to be. A recently as the mid-90's you'd usually have at least one car per race where the engine failed completely.

The "8 engines per season" rule is much better than the old "The engine must last 2 races" rule.

[sitescools]

thanks thunderbolt... that's the one.

Seeing this chart I'd say that Ferrari is not in such a bad situation after all having 3 engines with just one race each and one with 2... they seem to be covered... but then again you never know when one might just blow up in the middle of the race and show us just how limited statistics are...

McLaren seem to be covered pretty well but I don't think it's such a big advantage to have enough engines for 10 more races when there are just 5 left... you can't use 2 per race and if one would give up in the middle of one race it will be just the same.

I'd say that both Ferrari and McLaren have proven to have very reliable engines so far, most of them being used for 3 races without problem... while RBR changed their renault engine more frequently for whatever reason... which could mean nothing in the end. However they proved to have the most unreliable car of the main contenders.

In conclusion I'd say that I'm not concerned for neither of the top 3 teams

[Poll Pitt]

How far ahead are engines built? Is it the case that they have to be machined and then used within a certain time, or does the use of an engine introduce contaniments into it which start a degradation process?

I'm pretty sure it only starts being significant once its been through its operation, assuming its in ideal storage conditions. Comparable to a set of tyres, I suppose.