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Old 09-05-2010, 08:54 PM   #1
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Sorry to say that Shoya Tomizawa passed away after a crash in Moto GP2 today.

I know this is a F1 forum but I'm sure we all wish to pay our respects.

RIP Shoya.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:25 PM   #2
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I didn't watch the Moto2 race so it came as a complete shock to me when I read it on autosport.

Aged 19 years.

RIP
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:52 PM   #3
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He's one of the man to watch . Sadly , he's died . It was way too young for him to go .

One week before , one rider also died . 13 years old . That's way ,way ,way too young to die .

R.I.P for both of them .

Now that's remind me Motogp will switching to 1000cc engine while Formula One switching to more smaller engine although there's no death . More goner for Motogp racing anyone ?
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:35 AM   #4
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thankfully I did not watch the crash which I heard was just horrible.

My thoughts go out to him and his family.

May he rest in peace.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:36 AM   #5
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R.I.P.

The accident was horrible, but unfortunately, no safety measures in the world would have been able to prevent that.

As much as it pains to say it, it was a racing incident, and that makes it all the more terrible. Good to see that De Angelis and Redding escaped unscathed.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:40 AM   #6
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tragic loss in what i believe were similar circumstances as the young lad at Indy the other week, a great shame to lose anyone enjoying the sport they love
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:52 AM   #7
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tragic loss in what i believe were similar circumstances as the young lad at Indy the other week, a great shame to lose anyone enjoying the sport they love
Wasn't the other rider only 13 as well?

It's extremely upsetting - I would call my career into question after the events of this week if I were a rider.

Valentino Rossi was impeccable after the race in his reaction to the news. Typical Rossi, always being positive, and saying what a nice guy Shoya was in tribute to him.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:09 AM   #8
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RIP

it is always painful to hear about deaths in motorsport wherever and whenever it happens, and to lose such a young man who was a star of the future is a real shame for all-mirrors of henry surtees last year.

condolences to his family, friends and team.
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:56 PM   #9
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Motorsport may be a wide ranging and varied sport where the different strands don't often mix. But when we lose one of our own it affect us all . RIP Shoya-san.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:41 PM   #10
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R.I.P.

The accident was horrible, but unfortunately, no safety measures in the world would have been able to prevent that.

As much as it pains to say it, it was a racing incident, and that makes it all the more terrible. Good to see that De Angelis and Redding escaped unscathed.
True except the marshalls then moved both Tomizawa and Redding withouyt assessing their injuries and then promptly dropped Tomizawa. The Misano race control and marshalls were a joke and should all be fired - complete disgrace the race wasn't stopped straight away.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:50 PM   #11
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I echo your sentiments mate but perhaps we should leave the judgement of these matters a little while when they can be assessed more objectivly. At the moment, like you I am annoyed but would it really have made any difference. He looked in trouble as soon as he was off

However, the post crash actions and treatment need to be analysed in the cold light of day, not when everyone is still in shock.

As Mark says, any death or serious injury in any Motor sport event is felt throughout the different formulas. RIP.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:28 PM   #12
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RIP Shoya, Lenz, and as well to the 13 year old and another rider killed at my local track...

Moto racers are the gladiators of the racing world. I'd consider myself braver than most, but I'd never have the bravery of a moto racer. Godspeed.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:37 PM   #13
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RIP, another lost rider in too short of a time period in racing associated with motogp.

As to track marshalling and the rest, I will leave that with only one comment: While it may not have made any actual difference as to his survival in this particular accident, the race should have been red flagged and the ambulance brought onto the track. What happenned was disrespectful to the rider and his family as well as to his value as a fellow human being less important than the value of completing this race without a stoppage.
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Old 09-06-2010, 07:56 PM   #14
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RIP, another lost rider in too short of a time period in racing associated with motogp.

As to track marshalling and the rest, I will leave that with only one comment: While it may not have made any actual difference as to his survival in this particular accident, the race should have been red flagged and the ambulance brought onto the track. What happenned was disrespectful to the rider and his family as well as to his value as a fellow human being less important than the value of completing this race without a stoppage.
I didn't know that they kept the race going.

I think after just seeing the crash in question that it would be serious enough to warrant stopping the race.

How long did they take to get him to hospital?
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:28 PM   #15
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http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/163...treatment.html
During a special press conference at Misano on Sunday, following the news of Tomizawa's death in hospital several hours after his fall, officials explained that the race wasn't stopped because marshals had moved all the riders and machines before the leaders reached the scene of the accident on the following lap.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:03 PM   #16
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Yes, all the riders were dragged off immediately.

And even though Shoya lay motionless and clearly seriously injured, he was rolled and pulled over onto a strether where they ran off but then dropped part of the stretcher, so he fell partially off, instead of following standard paramedic procedures, such as not moving him until ascertaining his condition as to whether or not he should be moved and how, whether or not he needed a neck restraint because of cervical injuries or a back restraint because of spinal injuries(to prevent injuries to the spinal cord), and taking precautions to avoid further arterial damage such as to the major arota, where more movement and twisting of the body can cause a complete rupture, a broken rib that can puncture a lung from inapproriate movement......and having the ambulance and life support move to where it is close by as in a few feet of the injured party.

Instead, we have a quick toss and run to wherever it may be sitting, somewhere off track.

This year, there have been a number of races where riders were just limping away from their bikes, and the race was immediately red flagged. This race should have been immediately red flagged, so the riders stop at the pits before starting another lap.

reminds me too much of the death of Daijiro Kato who died after being in a comma from a brain stem infarction. His rough removal and lack of a neck restraint caused many to wonder if it were the accident or the rough treatment afterwards that did the most damage.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:33 PM   #17
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Two died in a collision at the Manx Grand Prix last week as well, a sad week all round for motorcycle racing.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:00 PM   #18
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Two died in a collision at the Manx Grand Prix last week as well, a sad week all round for motorcycle racing.
Bloody dangerous course and just relieved my mate finished safely in the top half of the Senior race.

I don't know why the CoC didn't stop the race. It looked awful and I was waiting for the Doctor to spring into action. Not wanting to cast aspersions but I am confident that had that accident happened over here, the race would have been red flagged but there will be an inquest and these questions raised.

In the meantime, it's just a very sad time.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:02 PM   #19
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Totally agree with Markabilly.

Totally disgusted at not seeing the red flag displayed despite Shoya sickenly laying motionless.

RIP Shoya
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:09 PM   #20
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True except the marshalls then moved both Tomizawa and Redding withouyt assessing their injuries and then promptly dropped Tomizawa. The Misano race control and marshalls were a joke and should all be fired - complete disgrace the race wasn't stopped straight away.
If that's what happened then heads should roll
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