[sitescools]

Unless you've been on another planet for a couple of years, you may have noticed the increasing financial dilemma faced by the Eurozone.....

Santander, a bank, of Spanish origin, a country on the brink of financial ruin, paid not only a shed load of wonga to make Kimi go west, bu also to get Alonso in the red cars.

Not currently money well spent when every penny, in an austere society, is scrutinised by all.

If we are to be that scrupulous you'll agree with me that all the money spent in f1 is really well spent in an austere society...

[Siffidiolla]

If we are to be that scrupulous you'll agree with me that all the money spent in f1 is really well spent in an austere society...

Look, how many sponsors do you know of, that have paid for an under contract driver to 'go fourth and multiply' while putting in his place the most expensive (and, I suggest overrated) driver on the grid?

[sitescools]

Look, how many sponsors do you know of, that have paid for an under contract driver to 'go fourth and multiply' while putting in his place the most expensive (and, I suggest overrated) driver on the grid?

None

[Siffidiolla]

None

Santander.

[dr-eavealer]

If you seriously think that Ferrari would be better off with a disinterested driver than Alonso, then you are very much wrong.

Your evident bias dislike against Alonso is to be expected, but in many ways a compliment as it shows that he is, as many Ferrari fans feel towards Hamilton, a threat.

If Ferrari had two drivers who you and other Hamilton fans liked, then as a Ferrari fan I would not be happy as it would show that there would be nothing for you to fear.

Two WDC's is ample evidence that, with the right tools, Alonso is capable of triumph.

Thank your stars that in his first season at Ferrari the combination has not come to fruition.

There are more seasons to come than 2010, and Ferrari fans know that the history of the Scuderia is that things rarely do not happen overnight.

That is the belief of Kimi fans, thanks to the car he inherited in 2007 and your man Hamilton's generosity.

[Siffidiolla]

If you seriously think that Ferrari would be better off with a disinterested driver than Alonso, then you are very much wrong.

Your evident bias dislike against Alonso is to be expected, but in many ways a compliment as it shows that he is, as many Ferrari fans feel towards Hamilton, a threat.

If Ferrari had two drivers who you and other Hamilton fans liked, then as a Ferrari fan I would not be happy as it would show that there would be nothing for you to fear.

Two WDC's is ample evidence that, with the right tools, Alonso is capable of triumph.

Thank your stars that in his first season at Ferrari the combination has not come to fruition.

There are more seasons to come than 2010, and Ferrari fans know that the history of the Scuderia is that things rarely do not happen overnight.

That is the belief of Kimi fans, thanks to the car he inherited in 2007 and your man Hamilton's generosity.

My dear fellow poster - Alonso is no threat. He was dealt with by Lewis in his rookie year, and we all know Lewis has some way to go yet to become the complete driver.

2005 was lucky for Alonso, as Bridgestone produced Pirelli replicas.

2006 saw the beginning of the end of the Shoe's dominance. And there was no real other competition at that time.

So you see, the scuderia settling for second best is their problem, not mine.

[dr-eavealer]

So you see, the scuderia settling for second best is their problem, not mine.

The only person you convince is yourself.

That is a problem, even if you do not recognise it.

[Siffidiolla]

The only person you convince is yourself.

That is a problem, even if you do not recognise it.

I'm not convinced you are correct.

[ATTILAGLIC]

yea that is about the only hope you have.

beg the toad loser

You mean that not getting banned or losing their points is their only hope?
I hope they punish them!

[SeftyJokipl]

You mean that not getting banned or losing their points is their only hope?
I hope they punish them!

Yes they deserv som spanking now and then. The judge Max will help them out.

[anxpuna]

lame

Just so you know, I fully support Ioan`s stance on this issue and I too hope for a harsh penalty for Ferrari.
A ban for mr.santander would be perfect ( I know it won`t happen, but it would be funny )

[ATTILAGLIC]

A ban for mr.santander would be perfect ( I know it won`t happen, but it would be funny )

That would be too good to be true, but hey the chances are 50% just like his chances to win the championship, according to Whinnies' probability calculations!

[TimoDass]

Why would Fernando say anything different? He is a professional athlete--he must maintain his optimism and never-say-die attitude. Moreover, he learned after 2007 how quickly things can change over the course of a couple of races (Kimi comes from behind to win), and he also learned from 2008 how quickly things can change from corner to corner (Felipe had the title until the last corner at Rio).

Racing drivers are not athletes. Motor racing is an ANaerobic activity. They are professional sportsmen.

[TimoDass]

I think its time for Alonso to begin to employ Senna-Schumacher type racing tactics: just HOW MUCH do you really want this title ........!

[dolaBeetCeage]

I think Alonso is going through some trepidation of his own.

Vettel isn't the only one making mental mistakes.

[Tibaveriafark]

Just so you know, I fully support Ioan`s stance on this issue and I too hope for a harsh penalty for Ferrari.
A ban for mr.santander would be perfect ( I know it won`t happen, but it would be funny )

Meh, it's not as if team orders will stick to Teflonso. He's already managed to dodge the bullets for having communications regarding other teams information, spins on track for his benefit, etc. They will once again look right past something so blatant.

Which will make it all the sweeter when he realizes that even after the cheating, he still got beat.

[nursopoutaras]

Just wait until next weeks WMSC hearing.
There's a chance that a lot of toys will be thrown out of the pram by the Alonso & LdM duo!
Especially if Max will be around to pay them some debts!

I am happy for you.

[nursopoutaras]

What a nice group of bashers. I have rarely seen people getting together and ganging up against one person. The hatred against Ferrari continues unstoppable on multiple fronts. I actually lost the count on hpw many anti Ferrai threads are there right now. I instead find it disturbing and shameful to see the extend of this hatred and really hope LH will lose miserably. It would only the right reward for his cheating so fondly and lovingly overlooked by all of you bashers.

[TimoDass]

Having to be somewhat fit for an activity does not make the individual an athlete.

Fighter pilots who undergo far more physical stress than racing drivers are not athletes - yet they do physical training.

All elite combat units undergo far more intensive physical training with running and gymnastics and obstacle courses which has to be maintained - they are not athletes.

I have always ran 3 miles per day and swam 1 mile per day - I am not an athlete.

Athletes are people who compete in athletic type events - such as the decathlon.

But sports like motor racing are anaerobic, not aerobic and for most of the years in racing, physical fitness was not even neccessary. It was the rise of g-forces and the general rise in competition in all areas that gave rise to fitness.

And even today, not all the drivers do as much as Button and Webber for example - what they do is for reasons far beyond what is required.

F1 racing drivers are professional sportsman not athletes whose activity requires a high degree of aerobic conditioning because it is part of their sport.

[Todilrdc]

Racing drivers are not athletes. Motor racing is an ANaerobic activity. They are professional sportsmen.

This is absolute nonsense and shows that sometimes you know next to nothing about racing drivers. Apart from anyone else, I know for a fact that SchM is a superb athlete, and so is Ant, and so was DC. And this is just for starters.