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Anderton: There were suggestions a few weeks back that the Cosworth loses horsepower as the engine mileage goes up a LOT faster than all the others, and also has narrower power bands, etc. In peak power terms, it's up there with the Renault (which is the only area where Renault lose out to Merc, apparently), but in all other respects the Renault is a better engine.

StD: I'm pretty sure that (unlike McLaren with Mercedes), RBR don't have a veto on who Renault supply engines to, and Renault have already said they'd like to supply four teams (including Genii-Lada).

Not like Mercedes and Mclaren - but success, BIG SUCCCESS, in any field creates its own strong influence.

Given the superiority of RB6 following RB5 and the probability of continuing this trend, if RBR were to raise objection - and if I were them I would - then Renault would be irrational to do that - especially to a team such as Lotus - what have they done to justify Renault engines.

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The last paragraph of the BBC article is kind of interesting

The new Lotus team is already being treated by F1 authorities as a continuation of the former one, which was set up by the legendary Colin Chapman, earning prize and appearance money on the basis of Team Lotus's historic results.

That's got to grate a little with Hispania and Virgin.

Yep. And we all know there's no history of legendary virgins in F1!

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http://www.anf1blog.com/2010/07/lotu...t-engine-deal/
Ayrton Senna and Nigel Mansell are among the drivers who have previously raced Renault-powered Lotus cars in Formula 1, and a Lotus-Renault partnership was responsible for the former’s first Grand Prix win at Estoril in 1985.

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Unless Red Bull Racing are able to obtain Mercedes engines - not likely, then RBR is not likely to sign off on Viry increasing its customer size.

Aint gonna happen!

Unless RBR have signed an exclusivity contract I dont think they will get any say in the matter.

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Unless RBR have signed an exclusivity contract I dont think they will get any say in the matter.

I agree. The only team that's really guaranteed a supply of Renault engines is... Renault. Same with Ferrari and Mercedes. Red Bull can stamp their feet if they want to, and they might find themselves running Cossies after they do.

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Yep - any influence RBR have would be entirely bound up in the supply of alternatives. Which amounts to one - Cosworth. McLaren will use their veto if Merc try to supply another top-rank team (meaning RBR. They'd be fine with them supplying one of the new teams from reports), and Ferrari have shown no sign of wanting to increase their supply (about the only way that could happen is if RBR pinched STR's supply). Ergo, RBR have no leverage.

And Lotus don't have to "justify" anything. There are hurdles - they'd have to buy themselves out of the Cosworth deal, the FIA would have to approve Renault supplying a third (or fourth) team - but making some sort of Dragon's Den "we're as good as Red Bull, us" pitch isn't one of them.

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this may be true if the Cosworth contract was for so many engines.

http://www.skiddmark.com/2010/08/09/...tomer-f1-cars/

Exos features a 3.5L Cosworth GPV8 that has been detuned to produce 650bhp with a 10,300rpm redline (10,800rpm when push to pass is activated). As the car just weighs 650kg this means the approximate 1000bhp/ton figure should make the Exos the quickest toy on any track day.

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Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.

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Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious.

Colin Chapman will come and haunt you!