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Old 06-25-2010, 10:35 PM   #1
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Default Exhaust Blown Diffusers
Are a new rage this weekend

Not a new concept. Remember the exhausts that exited underneath the floor/beginning of the diffuser from the early 90s/late 80s

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2010/0...ven-diffusers/
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:43 AM   #2
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I'll give it a few weeks, now that its popular, before it gets banned on cost grounds.
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:20 AM   #3
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Great article!
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:41 AM   #4
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Adrian is a genious.

Whats next?
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:22 AM   #5
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Adrian is a genious.

Whats next?
Rival teams copying his innovation and beating Red Bull to the WDC and WCC perhaps?
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:16 AM   #6
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Lets not get used to them, they will soon be banned for being too clever (sorry, I mean to "cut costs") just like the double diffuser, Merc airbox (even if that hasnt gave an advantage, it looks different so its bad apparently!), and just about anything else, because lets face it all we need is adjustable rear wings and "KERS" programmed so it acts as a push to pass button (end sarcasm mode)
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:22 AM   #7
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i heard this on motogp qualifying
ducati found that the exhaust gas heat on the rear fork was making the carbon fiber flexibale

so it may be that the ones coping the exhaust system without the matching air flow under the diffuser will make the car worse ?
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Old 06-26-2010, 06:35 PM   #8
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i heard this on motogp qualifying
ducati found that the exhaust gas heat on the rear fork was making the carbon fiber flexibale

so it may be that the ones coping the exhaust system without the matching air flow under the diffuser will make the car worse ?
That's a distinct possibility if the rival teams aren't careful with how they implement it.
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Old 06-26-2010, 11:38 PM   #9
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Adrian is a genious.
Yeah, he reinvented the wheel and Ferrari found nothing better then doing the same.
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Old 06-26-2010, 11:43 PM   #10
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Lets not get used to them, they will soon be banned for being too clever (sorry, I mean to "cut costs") just like the double diffuser, Merc airbox (even if that hasnt gave an advantage, it looks different so its bad apparently!), and just about anything else, because lets face it all we need is adjustable rear wings and "KERS" programmed so it acts as a push to pass button (end sarcasm mode)
Well this is what mophead and the muppets want to give us, a show.
Who care about technical innovation nowadays anyway?
Panem et Circenses! That's what the plebs are getting, like 2000 years ago.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:42 AM   #11
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Yeah, he reinvented the wheel and Ferrari found nothing better then doing the same.
Thanks for killing off a potentially interesting thread Ioan. Are you going to jump on anyone else's opinions if they dare to be different to your own?
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:08 AM   #12
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Thanks for killing off a potentially interesting thread Ioan. Are you going to jump on anyone else's opinions if they dare to be different to your own?
Since when is it forbidden to post my opinion?

PS: Should I suppose that you improved your maths and came back to prove it?!
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:17 AM   #13
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Since when is it forbidden to post my opinion?
Holding back once in a while is quite a polite thing, sometimes. If we all posted our honest opinion on every subject all the time, I know I would have been banned on several occasions, because once in a while one's honest opinion is, shall we say, less than constructive.
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Old 06-27-2010, 05:11 PM   #14
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Holding back once in a while is quite a polite thing, sometimes. If we all posted our honest opinion on every subject all the time, I know I would have been banned on several occasions, because once in a while one's honest opinion is, shall we say, less than constructive.
I agree.
However I fail to see what mistake did I do when I said that Newey reinvented the wheel with the exhausts gases exiting into the diffuser. It is what reality is as this solution was used 20 years ago already.
And my post shouldn't stop anyone from continuing to discuss about the effectiveness of this setup.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:46 PM   #15
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People are getting upset because Ioan doesn't want to blow exhaust gasses up Newey's diffuser?
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:39 PM   #16
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People are getting upset because Ioan doesn't want to blow exhaust gasses up Newey's diffuser?
Good one!
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Old 06-30-2010, 02:51 AM   #17
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I've had my motorsport gossip head on today. McLaren are putting the exhaust blown diffusers on the car for Silverstone. They've been none stop in the simulator testing it for the past two week and are apparently 0.6secs quicker using it. If that gain can be translated onto the track we can really see the championship get interesting. McLaren have never had a single upgrade that has gained them so much time.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:28 AM   #18
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Plus new upgrades for the weekend could be a 1-2 as they predicted
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:26 PM   #19
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This is nothing new, but apparently all the designers had a memory lapse for about 2 decades! Many of the drivers in the 1980's and early 1990's tell of the car being stationary in the pitlane and blipping the accelerator which would cause the diffuser to suck the back of the car down even though it was standing still.
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Old 06-30-2010, 04:41 PM   #20
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No it's subtley different to the other version in that they exited under the car into the diffuser. These are feeding hot air into the diffuser not part of it
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