[hictchewisa]

so it would seem to be with me, as more and more we have these screwed up penalty stuff and the entry of the SC into the race, with its poor timing......how stupid......and it seems now to happenning even more frequently.

long overdue

[johobuo]

Agreed, he and the stewards were piss-poor today.

[BebopVT]

so it would seem to be with me, as more and more we have these screwed up penalty stuff and the entry of the SC into the race, with its poor timing......how stupid......and it seems now to happenning even more frequently.

long overdue

Pissweak, truly pissweak. They ummed and ahh'ed over the penalty and in the end Hamilton got it at a convenient time. You can't blame Hamilton for that, people make mistakes and he got penalised, but the timing was just all wrong.

[Slintreeoost]

i think lewis got away easy
what happened to the 10 second stop go Drive Through Penalty

The ten-second (or "stop-go") penalty requires the driver to enter the pitlane, stop at his pit for ten seconds, and exit again. As the stop is designed to punish the driver for an offence, Stop-go penalties are generally imposed for more serious offences, such as jump starts, pit lane speeding, ignoring blue flags or unfair blocking. The ten second halt makes a stop-go penalty much more costly to a driver's race times than a drive-through penalty.

[DrCeshing]

This should have happened already many years ago.
Who knows what secrets Whiting holds and the FIA do not have the balls to have all that crap go public?!

[johobuo]

Well, at least they're not as bad as World Cup referees!

[hictchewisa]

Well, at least they're not as bad as World Cuf referees!

Those guys have a very good excuse.

Those guys have to run around on the field, in the middle of the melee, and deal with all sorts of stuff, without the benefit of 25 minutes of replays to figure out if they are blind in both eyes or just blind in one eye and can not see out the other


they did a terrible job deploying the SC, could not figure out what to do with Hamilton for way too long, then they can not do math to figure out if anyone was speeding....

Similar to FA and MS at Monaco.....they throw all these white flags and say go!!!!

but really did not mean it....all they needed was a clear rule in place for the "faux race finishes" so everyone would know it was just for show...

[Henldyhl]

Those guys have a very good excuse.

Those guys have to run around on the field, in the middle of the melee, and deal with all sorts of stuff, without the benefit of 25 minutes of replays to figure out if they are blind in both eyes or just blind in one eye and can not see out the other

You are right, the stewards really are MacLaren and Lewis friends this year.

It seems as they waited until Lewis got a big enough gap to Koba and Jenson.

[hictchewisa]

You are right, the stewards really are MacLaren and Lewis friends this year.

It seems as they waited until Lewis got a big enough gap to Koba and Jenson.

after the penalties, if they put 25 seconds on button, we will know that is not true as to favs.

i think it is just incompetence---

[nithhysfusy]

Well, at least they're not as bad as World Cup referees!

how true, just watched that first half and while I have no dog in this fight it was a terrible terrible call from the ref. Even the guy in row 42 section 101 could see it was a goal. The linesman was yards behind the play. Fifa should just come out at the 2nd half and say score 2:2

[Henldyhl]

how true, just watched that first half and while I have no dog in this fight it was a terrible terrible call from the ref. Even the guy in row 42 section 101 could see it was a goal. The linesman was yards behind the play. Fifa should just come out at the 2nd half and say score 2:2

Or perhaps Fernando alonso shall do that.

[hictchewisa]

Get this, as best as i can tell from timing, because of pit layout, the drive through cost a mere 12 seconds, if that, BUT the after the race penalty is 25 seconds.....

FA should have passed as well......he would have been third, with his drive through, if both had to do it at the same time

[retyopj]

FA should have passed as well......he would have been third, with his drive through, if both had to do it at the same time

that´s precisely why he´s moaning

[Pszinygv]

Of course thats why! As for Whiting and the team many times the SC timing has been questionable and so it proved today.

[nithhysfusy]

that´s precisely why he´s moaning

exactly.

[retyopj]

hmm... another interpretation, this time from the truly unbiassed German angle:

Alonso was unfairly blocked by Ham to force him to stay behind the SC while Ham could squeeze in front

If true, and quick thinking to Ham !

[retyopj]

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/formel1/...703142,00.html
"Der Spanier war zuvor allerdings von Hamilton unfair ausgebremst worden: Der Brite fuhr in dem Moment an der Ausfahrt der Boxengasse vorbei, als das Safety Car auf die Strecke kam. Er bremste kurz ab, gab dann aber plötzlich wieder Gas und zog am Safety Car vorbei. Alonso musste abstoppen, da das Überholen des Safety Cars verboten ist, und verlor durch die Aktion viel Zeit." or, to quote Babelfish :
" The Spaniard had been unfairly expenditure-braked before however of Hamilton: The Britisher drove past in the moment at the exit of the box lane, when the Safety Car came on the distance. It braked briefly, gave then however suddenly again gas and pulled on the Safety Car past. Alonso had to stop, since overhauling of the Safety Cars is forbidden, and lost by the action much Zeit."

[hictchewisa]

hmm... another interpretation, this time from the truly unbiassed German angle:

Alonso was unfairly blocked by Ham to force him to stay behind the SC while Ham could squeeze in front

If true, and quick thinking to Ham !

funny, but it think he did exactly that with help from his crew. Ham was very slow on that on that lap and held up FA, then tried to squeeze by.....Brilliant....

[hictchewisa]

what a 5 second penalty??

I thought clearly that is not allowed, either nothing or 25 seconds???

[DrCeshing]

what a 5 second penalty??

I thought clearly that is not outlawed, either nothing or 25 seconds???

Welcome to the FIA's reign,eh, I mean show!

You can have some koolaid now.