[Qxkmsxsx]

The device would increase the straightline speed of the car behind by approximately 15km/h to help overtaking, but could not be used on the opening laps of a race. The car in front would not be able to deploy the system in defence, but would be able to retaliate using the wing once it was following the rival car.

"The flap will be adjustable by the driver," Lowe explained during a Vodafone McLaren Mercedes teleconference. "He can run it however he likes in qualifying, so what we'll actually do is make the flap so it has very low drag, and in qualifying that will allow you to get a better laptime by using it wherever you can.

"In the race, you can't use it for the first two laps at all, but after that if you're within a second of the car in front then you will be able to deploy it. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84682

Probably safer than persevering with the F-duct. Add that to some less durable tyres and they may be onto something...

[Mypepraipse]

There's something I don't get. The car in front is not allowed to use the device?

[loan4younow]

That's a stupid bunch of rules! Apparently the people who invent this stuff are mainly familiar with racing via video games.

I like adjustable wings... but not allowed to use on the first lap? not allowed to use while leading another car, only trailing? what if you are leading one car & trailing another? What about passing backmarkers? What is the wing fails in the "fast" position?

Another gimmick that won't happen.

[mireOpekrhype]

That's fine when you have one car on one, but you often have a situation where you have a train of 3 or more cars where the ones in the middle are fighting to get ahead, whilst at the same time defending from those behind!

[Mr_White]

This came from FOTA ?

I get the adjustable wing thing .
But , with the restrictions , it gets phoney and full of potential of problems .

How , for example , does the driver making the pass do so with the wing in that "fast" position , when he's going into the lead , where he's not allowed it's use ?
Does race control automatically shift the wing into the alternate position as they change places ?
Does the driver have a set amount of time to change it to the other position ?
Does he have a set number of corners ?

And when does the leader , as he gets passed , get to go back on attack , with the other setting ?

It seems to be a plan with no way to succeed .
This is just a dopey idea .
Can anyone else here think of a way you could implement this smoothly ?

[TeLMgNva]

Can anyone else here think of a way you could implement this smoothly ?

In a word? No.

Moveable wings is, in my opninion a good idea, but why is everything in F1 bl00dy restricted? Restricted KERS, mandatory tyre stops, now the wing rule!

In an ideal world i'd like no restrictions in these areas, but as that's never gonna happen, I could live with the same rule as regards front wing adjustement with a set number of adjustments per lap. Then it adds an element of tactics to it. When to adjust the wing to defend? Save KERS in case you get mugged on the straight, etc.

[P1international]

Some of the worst ideas I have ever heard of...

Racing where you have to allow the underdog to beat you without defending?

Man... F1 does not need these gmmicks... I'd rather have no overtaking than this fake crap they are pumping out...
What it means is car will be constantly overtaking and then being overtaken without being able to move ahead because the car behind you will always be quicker than you...
I don't like it. If there is no decent way of implementing it, don't allow it FFS.

[FloareTraurne]

Don't like this. What next, stopping the leading driver using 7th gear? Seems a little contrived and overly complicated.

Mind you, might make the last lap at Monza interesting!

[TeLMgNva]

Don't like this. What next, stopping the leading driver using 7th gear? Seems a little contrived and overly complicated.

LOL. I used to do that on GP2, 3 & 4 to make it a big harder.

[Catalogov]

Moronic.

[AAAESLLESO]

Gawd! Why can't they make things simple enough for regular folks to understand? Like giving them a LOT more horsepower and a LOT less brakes. That would promote more overtaking, and would be more easily related to our own driving experiences. No gimmicks please.

[VemyhemiHef]

cant they just install sprinkler systems at all the tracks to recreate wet races

[TeLMgNva]

cant they just install sprinkler systems at all the tracks to recreate wet races

Gods! Don't let Bernie overhear you - he'll think its a brilliant idea!

As has been said already, we can easily recreate wet weather races by mimicking conditions with rock hard rubber and massive horsepower. Bosh.

[loan4younow]

Driver adjustable bodywork
From 2011, adjustable bodywork may be activated by the driver at any time prior to the start of the race and, for the sole purpose of improving overtaking opportunities during the race, after the driver has completed two laps. The driver may only activate the adjustable bodywork in the race when he has been notified via the control electronics that it is enabled. It will only be enabled if the driver is less than one second behind another at any of the pre-determined positions around each circuit. The system will be disabled the first time the driver uses the brakes after the system has been activated. The FIA may, after consulting all the competitors, adjust the time proximity in order to ensure the purpose of the adjustable bodywork is met. This is real. Quoted straight from the formula1.com

This is pure stupidity. They have just enabled a "push-to-pass" type system that's use is governed by rules & marshals. How long before an overtake gets protested (or overturned) because of improper use of the "fast" wing?

It"s a given that McLaren's use of the wing will be much more restricted then Ferrari's.

[pfcwlkxav]

I can see this having more problems than Vista.

[PhilipBartew]

Some of the worst ideas I have ever heard of...

Racing where you have to allow the underdog to beat you without defending?

Man... F1 does not need these gmmicks... I'd rather have no overtaking than this fake crap they are pumping out...
What it means is car will be constantly overtaking and then being overtaken without being able to move ahead because the car behind you will always be quicker than you...
I don't like it. If there is no decent way of implementing it, don't allow it FFS.

I agree 100%, this is the pinnacle of motorsport for god's sake.

[nithhysfusy]

That's a stupid bunch of rules! Apparently the people who invent this stuff are mainly familiar with racing via video games.

I like adjustable wings... but not allowed to use on the first lap? not allowed to use while leading another car, only trailing? what if you are leading one car & trailing another? What about passing backmarkers? What is the wing fails in the "fast" position?

Another gimmick that won't happen.

[nithhysfusy]

Don't like this. What next, stopping the leading driver using 7th gear? Seems a little contrived and overly complicated.

Mind you, might make the last lap at Monza interesting!

i can see races where the car on 2nd position will sit just behind the leader for long stretches and then in the final lap decide to make his move leaving the car who was leading with no opportunity to fight. This is just a dumb rule and as usual the FIA overcomplicated the whole issue. Besides, different teams have different wing settings thus making their adjustable wing movement different from car to car. just allow the thing to be implemented without restrictions and let the engineers go at it.

[QEoMi752]

I hate this bs - and who are the nameless cretins that think this rubbish up?

If the F1 teams had any backbone they would stand against these "rocket science" geeks!

[reervieltnope]

I can see this having more problems than Vista.

...or ME.....