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Old 06-03-2010, 11:38 PM   #1
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Default Difference between a RBR and MCLAREN
Redbull have solved the issue between Webber and vettle . The team did not show any baisness , even though claimed by many people.

both drivers came talk and sorted the issue out and now are at the same level as before. If it was in Mclaren, suppose Between Hammy boy and Jenson . we all know what would have happened. ROB would have supported only his blue eyed boy and the fighting would have been on the street

The way RBR handled the issue shows the teams is unbaised and run by professional , not a LOLA team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84111

all ferrari haters, they never allowed these type of thing's to escalate into open .keep of ferrari away from this topic.

I support MSC and Mercedes Grand Prix now, but still think ferrari is more matured than MCL
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:47 PM   #2
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Redbull have solved the issue between Webber and vettle . The team did not show any baisness , even though claimed by many people.

both drivers came talk and sorted the issue out and now are at the same level as before. If it was in Mclaren, suppose Between Hammy boy and Jenson . we all know what would have happened. ROB would have supported only his blue eyed boy and the fighting would have been on the street

The way RBR handled the issue shows the teams is unbaised and run by professional , not a LOLA team

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84111

all ferrari haters, they never allowed these type of thing's to escalate into open .keep of ferrari away from this topic.

I support MSC and Mercedes Grand Prix now, but still think ferrari is more matured than MCL
Well, you believe all is rosy in the RBR camp do you?
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:50 PM   #3
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A fun picture and a press release (link) doesn't convince me that all is rosy in the Red Bull garden.

Overall, IMHO, Red Bull have handled this very poorly from the moment the incident happened (when they blamed Webber) through the various stories and press releases that have emerged since.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:01 AM   #4
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A fun picture and a press release (link) doesn't convince me that all is rosy in the Red Bull garden.

Overall, IMHO, Red Bull have handled this very poorly from the moment the incident happened (when they blamed Webber) through the various stories and press releases that have emerged since.
They'd make less mess if the team worked out of a china shop.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:04 AM   #5
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As soon as Jenson beats Lewis in another numbers of races, their will be blood.

RBR. Mark is not valued in the team.

Kimi will be back next year.

As it stands now, RBR has NO top tier driver. Most no biased people understands this.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:11 AM   #6
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Redbull have solved the issue between Webber and vettle .
No way. You can clearly see in the photo that Vettel is favoured. He's got a bigger bull on his t-shirt and takes up more space, and he's closer to the centre. And they got his good side. He probably swerved into Webber just after the shot. And it's all Schumacher's fault.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:06 AM   #7
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And it's all Schumacher's fault.
You just made my day , I wonder why was Schumi was not blamed so far, c'mon guys he was just about a min or away!
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:59 AM   #8
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As soon as Jenson beats Lewis in another numbers of races, their will be blood.

RBR. Mark is not valued in the team.

Kimi will be back next year.

As it stands now, RBR has NO top tier driver. Most no biased people understands this.
I would actually like to see Kimi and Vettel at red bull. Although Webber may really put a dent in Vettel's career if he were to win the WDC. Actually if Alonso doesn't get the lead out I am going to root for Webber to win the WDC.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #9
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I am going to root for Webber to win the WDC.
You're a bit keen aren't you?
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #10
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Redbull have solved the issue between Webber and vettle . The team did not show any baisness , even though claimed by many people.

The way RBR handled the issue shows the teams is unbaised and run by professional , not a LOLA team

I support MSC and Mercedes Grand Prix now, but still think ferrari is more matured than MCL
Red Bull did appear to heavily back Vettel initially and this was seen extensively in the press in the UK. Maybe you didn't have access to this information, afterall these are two British teams and alot of scrutiny is directed their way by our media. Once they realised the vast majority of fans were blaming Vettel and the pitwall, they conceded and released a revised statement. Along the lines of "now we have had time to review all the circumstances, we now feel that........."

You can say Ferrari is more mature than Mclaren but they are in different circumstances at present. Jenson and Lewis are both race winners with the second fastest car on the grid and are at times matching each others pace. Ferrari have a consistent slow driver in Massa, and a double WDC who is yet to find his form in a car which is struggling to hang on the third fastest on the grid. Alonso has made alot of mistakes, theres no getting away from that and with the sacking of John Iley, one can only speculate that this is a heavy blow with continuing development in the aero department.

We're approaching half way through the season and this is where the gap hopefully starts to close at the front, and at the moment the only teams making large steps forward are Red Bull and Mclaren.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:17 PM   #11
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is this a fake photo?
the shadow is not the same you see a shadow between them but not to the sides
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:48 PM   #12
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The difference between RBR and McLaren is only one team has a motor mouth know-nothing called Helmut Marko. The man has no class whatsoever.
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:20 PM   #13
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Red Bull did appear to heavily back Vettel initially and this was seen extensively in the press in the UK. Maybe you didn't have access to this information, afterall these are two British teams and alot of scrutiny is directed their way by our media. Once they realised the vast majority of fans were blaming Vettel and the pitwall, they conceded and released a revised statement. Along the lines of "now we have had time to review all the circumstances, we now feel that........."

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I do not see mac, brawn, mercedes nor ferrari thinking, gee we need to have our fans fuss and conduct a few polls to tell us what to think about a bump on the track.....

that is the biggest problem as red bull is completely in charge and is not a mere sponsor.

But red bull is just a company selling a needless consumer product of a non-essential nature with lots of caffeine

They do not make ferraris, mercedes or other cars for a living....
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:22 PM   #14
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I would actually like to see Kimi and Vettel at red bull. Although Webber may really put a dent in Vettel's career if he were to win the WDC. Actually if Alonso doesn't get the lead out I am going to root for Webber to win the WDC.
I want to see Speed and Rossi there....no not motogp rossi, who is still trying to figure out how to drag his knee while driving an f1 car through the corners...
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:36 PM   #15
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A fun picture and a press release (link) doesn't convince me that all is rosy in the Red Bull garden.

Overall, IMHO, Red Bull have handled this very poorly from the moment the incident happened (when they blamed Webber) through the various stories and press releases that have emerged since.
exactly
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:04 PM   #16
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is this a fake photo?
the shadow is not the same you see a shadow between them but not to the sides
finally he says something that i can agree with.
but he will never know if got me on his ignore list

the shadows and even the size of the two appear to be not in proper scale, so i think they has at least been some photoshaop "adjustment",if not outright fakery

wonder if got me on his ignore list, so I can talk real bad about him and his chopper, without him even noticing, thereby admitting by his silence the truth of what i say....
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:05 PM   #17
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finally he says something that i can agree with.
but he will never know if got me on his ignore list

wonder if got me on his ignore list, so I can talk real bad about him and his chopper, without him even noticing, thereby admitting by his silence the truth of what i say....
Do ever proof read post?
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:38 PM   #18
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RBR is British?
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:07 PM   #19
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RBR is British?
Run out of Britain, by a mostly British workforce (ex Stewart/Jaguar), but Austrian registered.

And, for Tamb's benefit, who sadly cannot be with us today, I use the word British not as I am, apparently, racist, but in a factual sense.

Just like Mercedes is an inherently British team - Ex Tyrrell/BAR/Honda/Brawn - but German registered.

The use of German being not to stir the Neo Nazi's amongst you, but to be factual.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:17 PM   #20
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Badly handled by RBR.

Marko should've kept quiet. He's now given ammunition for the media to spook his drivers and create a bigger rift.

Nor did Webbo help things with his "dig deeper" comment at the post-race press conference.

Can't make my mind up on Horner. I sense he's under pressure from Marko and Red Bull.

McLaren did well out of it. There was a sense of maturity from Lewis when he turned his back to the camera when discussing team communication with Bunsen. It was sick to see Bunsen pretending to be Mr Innocent but I won't be surprised if Ron Dennis ejaculated when he saw the press conference.
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