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Old 03-28-2010, 06:02 PM   #21
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He saved his tyres very well as right in the last 5-10 Laps he set his fastest lap time I think a low 1:29 when his tyres were really getting worn while Hamilton and Webber were only in the mid 28's so that is pretty impressive.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:09 PM   #22
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He saved his tyres very well as right in the last 5-10 Laps he set his fastest lap time I think a low 1:29 when his tyres were really getting worn while Hamilton and Webber were only in the mid 28's so that is pretty impressive.
I agree. He drove a very smart race and I am impressed that he alone made his tyre choice. As I said, a clever driver.
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:25 PM   #23
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You guys know the scariest thing about all this?

Saint Devote was right about Button and his tyres...
I said it as well

Hamilton will be quicker, but will destroy his tyres, while Button will be good to the tyres and be close enough to Lewis to take advantage.

Maybe not his greatest drive, but definitely his hardest in my opinion. Having the concentration and the discipline to not push the tyres too hard is very difficult, and the scary thing is, if the pit stop was better, and he hadn't made that mistake, he'd have won by another 10 seconds!

Not getting carried away, but I don't think the Red Bull's tyres would have held up even if Vettel hadn't have retired. The McLaren isn't the fastest car in Button's hands, but it could be the most effective. It wasn't even warm in Melbourne this weekend either, and Jenson goes extremely well at Sepang.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:05 PM   #24
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But Alonso also excels in Sepang. It will be a fun weekend.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:38 PM   #25
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You guys know the scariest thing about all this?

Saint Devote was right about Button and his tyres...
No, he wasnt.

Did you even see the race? Forget about it. I'll go talk to my ficus. It understands more.
Get on your knees and obey your master.

Hamilton will be quicker, but will destroy his tyres, while Button will be good to the tyres and be close enough to Lewis to take advantage.
How did Hamilton destroy his tyres?
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:05 AM   #26
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I am not gloating I am celebrating :-]

But this is a really SURPISING, thoughtful and pleasant thread. Last week I had decided to leave the forum because of all the unpleasantness but this thread does change my mind.

I am not a supporter of Alonso but I do enjoy praising other drivers [and I have praised Lewis too] also - such as Massa today!

Actually I really do not MEAN to gloat and will in future try and temper my enthusiam as I realize it can become tiresome and annoying.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:14 AM   #27
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I am not gloating I am celebrating :-]

But this is a really SURPISING, thoughtful and pleasant thread. Last week I had decided to leave the forum because of all the unpleasantness but this thread does change my mind.

I am not a supporter of Alonso but I do enjoy praising other drivers [and I have praised Lewis too] also - such as Massa today!

Actually I really do not MEAN to gloat and will in future try and temper my enthusiam as I realize it can become tiresome and annoying.
Actually I support Ferrari, Jenson and Michael this season, so I expect many pleasant races
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:25 AM   #28
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How did Hamilton destroy his tyres?
Well he wore out two sets while Button didn't really wear out one. Lewis wasn't the only one: de la Rosa, Schumacher, Webber all had wear issues.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:45 AM   #29
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How did Hamilton destroy his tyres?
He didn't but Button fans like to day dream. I'll let them dream now, they will have enough nightmares later.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:49 AM   #30
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Well he wore out two sets while Button didn't really wear out one. Lewis wasn't the only one: de la Rosa, Schumacher, Webber all had wear issues.
Lewis didn't have more wear issues than the others before they decided to change his tires.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:51 AM   #31
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I think that Button is now a better driver than Hamilton.
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:20 AM   #32
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I think that Button is now a better driver than Hamilton.
I wouldn't say that, but for me today he was the best driver and I am very happy for him as I have huge respect for the guy, very hard working, humble and the thing I like in him, he always bounces back.
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:03 AM   #33
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great drive, won by what, 20 seconds, in not the fastest car, with knackered old tyres.

i remember people saying he'd never win, after winning in the BAR he'd never win again. after wining in the Brawn, he'd never win the champ, and never win in anything less thana dominant car.

and apparently it was his call on the tyres - result.
I agree, It was a brilliant strategy today and a decent drive. JB's always had the reputation for being very easy on tires. He gambled and won, but he also really had no close on-track pressure to force him to use up his tires. I'd like to also commend Kubica's awesome drive bringing a Renault home in a very impressive second on a similar strategy. JB was very fortunate a couple on track incidents essentially eliminated any real opposition today. Hamilton used up his tires competing with Massa, Alonzo and Weber most of the race.

I've eaten my crow Had Honda remained in F1, I still hold that would all have remained true. Last year's Brawn with Honda power would still have been a dog. Merc power transformed the chassis. I'd hardly call the McLaren he's driving this season a backmarker, but Vettel is starting to look hard on his equipment, and well, Weber can't seem to keep a car on track to save himself, so a dominant RB doesn't guarantee anything. He was nowhere against Vettel imho, but drivers that are easy on their equipment are usually rewarded with good finishes. I'll give JB props on today's drive
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:08 AM   #34
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He didn't but Button fans like to day dream. I'll let them dream now, they will have enough nightmares later.
I had a dream that Jenson was the World's Champion. And then I woke up and it was true
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:27 AM   #35
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I had a dream that Jenson was the World's Champion. And then I woke up and it was true
Well said. :-)
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:09 AM   #36
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You name the best, he beat the best, including Fernando, and his team mate Lewis Hamilton.
To be honest he didn't beat Alonso. He pushed him out of track.
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:17 AM   #37
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He didn't but Button fans like to day dream. I'll let them dream now, they will have enough nightmares later.
You will let us dream? You have nothing to do with ANYTHING related to us.

We do not have to dream, we face reality and now enjoy it: Jenson is world champion and won the grand prix today.

Nothing fazes us when it comes to Jense. Every grand prix he engages with his "Barmy Army" - thats a good guy. We are all aware how good he is as a driver and appreciate what a solid individual he is.

Do you really think that there is ANYTHING that could now happen after so many years of being a supporter that COULD ever faze us?!

You would like to think that we will have "nightmares". But don't you realize we CAME THROUGH A NIGHTMARE and we stood by Jenson, for years with him having to drive awful cars.

And then just when we thought we has seen the worse, in the winter of 2008 it all looked as if he would not even be driving!!! THAT IS a nightmare.

Today, and since the early days of 2009 its been wonderful. It remains superb - he is a driver for the best team in the world, Mclaren

So whether he continues to beat Hamilton or finishes TENTH until the end of the season, we have been there and done that AND we have a whole giant wardrobe of t-shirts. We will remain the same and no dream or nightmare will affect us.

Jenson supporters, like Jense himself, have been forged into Rudyard Kipling.

No auld chappe - you understand nothing about what it means to be a supporter of Jenson Button. Absolutely nothing at all
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:20 AM   #38
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To be honest he didn't beat Alonso. He pushed him out of track.
It wasn't deliberate by either driver. Button had the inside line and was marginally ahead of Alonso before they arrived at the corner. The blind spot of Alonso's mirrors contributed to the incident and the only way Button could have got out of it would have been to stamp hard on his brakes. If he had done that, there would have been a huge pile up. Alonso himself has not blamed Button, because he has seen Button's onboard footage no doubt, and the stewards have also taken no action. Button would have been penalised had he been at fault..
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:25 AM   #39
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To be honest he didn't beat Alonso. He pushed him out of track.
Did he or did he not finish ahead of Alonso?

He beat him as did Massa, HIS teammate.

NB: you would have hated Dijon-Prenois 1979.
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:55 AM   #40
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Congrats Jenson for a very well deserved win today!

How come that MacLaren fans in general is a little bit sad today. Itīs like their worst enemie won today.
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