[Natashasuw]

Poll please.

Yay or Nay?

For the record, in the new system:

Drivers:
1. Massa 39
2. Vettel 37
3. Alonso 37
4. Button 35
5. Rosberg 35
6. Hamilton 31
7. Kubica 30
8. Webber 24
9. Sutil 10
10. Schumacher 9
11. Liuzzi 8
12. Barrichello 5
13. Alguersuari 2
14. Hulkenberg 1

Old system:

1. Massa 16
2. Alonso 15 (+1)
3. Vettel 14 (-1)
4. Rosberg 14 (+1)
5. Button 13 (-1)
6. Kubica 13 (+1)
7. Hamilton 12 (-1)
8. Webber 9
9. Sutil 4
10. Schumacher 3
11. Liuzzi 2
12. Barrichello 1

Still little to nothing in it, but I dig the new points system. Late in the season there should be a lot less conservative driving.

[dexterljohnthefinanceguy]

The new one is more entertaining, but it always depends on the season.

[rozettasmolanov]

The new system is designed to benefit winners and Button is one place higher with the new system. So it works.

[ebonytipchik]

The new system is designed to benefit winners and Button is one place higher with the new system. So it works.

Fair point

WT

[soonahonsefalh]

I know it doesn't matter as much as the current season, but the only dissapointing thing for me is.
It will be impossible to compare points scorers across the ages.
As a driver entering this year could potentially be all time top scorer within four seasons.

I know it would be unlikely as he would need to win almost every race each year but still its now impossible to compare.

[TobaccoNUE]

It is better now but only for top 8 at the very most.

[gyjsdtuwr]

I like the new system. It was interesting to see the guys scrap over the last few points. I think that's the real advantage of the new system... where there wasn't much to fight about in the midfield in past seasons, now they can gun it out between 11th, 10th, 9th... we saw a lot of great battles today in those positions. Thumbs up!

[2puO4Rhf]

I don't get the "aww... it'll be impossible to compare across the ages."

People of the forum: It already was.

8-6-4-3-2 +1 for fl
9-6-4-3-2-1
10-6-4-3-2-1
10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1

And that's BEFORE you consider the dropped races before 1990 (which changed the destination of more than one championship).

Oh, and if we're talking career totals, there's also the inflation in the number of races - even if the points system had never changed and there were no dropped races, it is one hellavalot easier to accumulate career points when the number of races/year has trebled over time.

The new system may make it more blatant, but the historical comparisons were already BS.

[Aswdwdfg]

I don't get the "aww... it'll be impossible to compare across the ages."

People of the forum: It already was.

8-6-4-3-2 +1 for fl
9-6-4-3-2-1
10-6-4-3-2-1
10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1

And that's BEFORE you consider the dropped races before 1990 (which changed the destination of more than one championship).

Oh, and if we're talking career totals, there's also the inflation in the number of races - even if the points system had never changed and there were no dropped races, it is one hellavalot easier to accumulate career points when the number of races/year has trebled over time.

The new system may make it more blatant, but the historical comparisons were already BS.

Indeed. The only facts that hold their value are chamionship position and start to win ratio. Almost everything else has already been so poluted by earlier changes to the system.

[Seerseraxlils]

A case can be made for any point system.

BUT: Massa has won nothing yet he heads the points table!

Definitely something is still ridiculous.

[Aswdwdfg]

A case can be made for any point system.

BUT: Massa has won nothing yet he heads the points table!

Definitely something is still ridiculous.

You don't advocate the medal system do you?

[textarchive]

What so having a championship leader who hasn't won after 3 races is ridiculous?! One wonders what you must have made of Richard Burns' 2002 season!

[Seerseraxlils]

What so having a championship leader who hasn't won after 3 races is ridiculous?! One wonders what you must have made of Richard Burns' 2002 season!

This is about F1.

[JackTimQSR]

This is about F1.

But passing references to other motorsport formulae are not forbidden.

[accelieda]

Indeed. The only facts that hold their value are chamionship position and start to win ratio. Almost everything else has already been so poluted by earlier changes to the system.

Seconded

TBH thie new system is growing on me, I mean after 3 races, only 9 points covers the top 7 which is intriguing

[Gorlummm]

But passing references to other motorsport formulae are not forbidden.

For Saint Devote it is.

[Seerseraxlils]

You don't advocate the medal system do you?

It is clear that having now to deal with a gazillion points per race is not the answer either - looking back it would not have changed much at all.

The point is: how do they derive these systems? Is it done scientifically using algorythms - I doubt that. Or do they sit around a table and just "decide".

I do think that race wins ought to count first. So maybe the driver with the most wins and then the points should count.

This would put Massa at most fourth.

The FIA ought to get several of the best mathematical brains in the world and pay them to derive a system where drivers that win have an advantage.

Massa at the top without a win or even a pole position is just ridiculous.

[Seerseraxlils]

But passing references to other motorsport formulae are not forbidden.

Formulae is still motor racing. Rallying is not, it is motor SPORT.

[Seerseraxlils]

Seconded

TBH thie new system is growing on me, I mean after 3 races, only 9 points covers the top 7 which is intriguing

Under the old system they would have been covered by FOUR points.

[JackTimQSR]

Formulae is still motor racing. Rallying is not, it is motor SPORT.

But mentions of rallying are, nonetheless, not forbidden in the F1 forum, in which, the last time I looked, you had no specific moderating authority.

You seem also to forget that the word 'Formula' has been applied in rallying in the past as well, and that the word 'motorsport' covers all forms of, well, motorsport, but we will gloss over that.