[PHOTOSHOPoem]

Is there any need for this sort of provocation?

Is it not possible to just enjoy the series and forget about this sort of bull****?

And no for the record I'm not a McLaren fan.

Too much of this crap on this forum. Pino should start handing out some bans.

[PilotJargon]

Is there any need for this sort of provocation?

Is it not possible to just enjoy the series and forget about this sort of bull****?

And no for the record I'm not a McLaren fan.

Too much of this crap on this forum. Pino should start handing out some bans.

While he's provocative, Tam has a point. Long and heated was the discussion about Ferrari's floor and this situation is very similar if not exactly the same. Those who called Ferrari cheats at the time should probably do the same here for McLaren. On the flipside, those who defended Ferrari should defend McLaren now.

Personally, I see no problem here. The FIA has had a quiet word to McLaren and they'll change their gear. Same deal that Ferrari got last time. Case closed really.

[standaman]

McLaren are using an illegal diffuser. What a surprise, not!

And still dead slow!

Now I'm looking forward for the McCheats and their fans to be crying about the FIA favoritism.

Seriously, I agree with Hawkmoon. There's nothing more than a clarification from the FIA as far as McLaren's and Renault's diffusers are concerned.

[mloversia]

Good decision.

Thumbs down for petty pointscoring.

[standaman]

Good decision.

Thumbs down for petty pointscoring.

Get yourself a sense of humor.

[mloversia]

Get yourself a sense of humor.

Poor humour doesn't count.

[standaman]

Poor humour doesn't count.

It's better than nothing.

[cristmiff]

all seems fair to me. If they've been scrutineered then that's fine, whatever is 'illegal' must be something on a clarification side of things, and now the FIA have clarified that all should be fine for the next race with the necessary changes made.

Minimum controversy, minimum fuss, and by the looks of it not a huge problem.

no need for the attempted provocation though. petty IMO.

[thomaskkk]

http://en.espnf1.com/bahrain/motorsp...ory/11176.html

Now, I recall in 2007 a big hoo-haa by Mclaren fans claiming that the Ferrari sprung-floor was illegal, despite being passed by scrutineering in Melbourne because it had to be removed for Malaysia.

Will those same people say the same in this instance?

Are your Mclaren cheats now too?

Or are you hypocrites?

Hell!! let me be a HYPROCITE - sounds like a great Rock Band. CHEATS will never prosper.

[dexterljohnthefinanceguy]

I really think that this things should be checked in testing, however.

[CesseOveldset]

So now you think Ferrari were illegal, or not? If not, the point of the original post is..... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, bollocks, as you would post.

Don't bother to reply, what's the point??????

[CesseOveldset]

[QUOTE=ST205GT4;765305]Is there any need for this sort of provocation?
QUOTE]

None, but how nice that he is consistent, eh?

[standaman]

So now you think Ferrari were illegal, or not? If not, the point of the original post is..... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, bollocks, as you would post.

Don't bother to reply, what's the point??????

What's the point of getting angry when we made it obvious that we were just pulling your leg?
You love to make fun of others but when a bit of that comes back and bites your arse you can't handle it at all.

[CesseOveldset]

What's the point of getting angry when we made it obvious that we were just pulling your leg?
You love to make fun of others but when a bit of that comes back and bites your arse you can't handle it at all.

You bothered to reply, why?

[standaman]

[QUOTE=SGWilko;765437]

Is there any need for this sort of provocation?
QUOTE]

None, but how nice that he is consistent, eh?

And what was the need for provocation from the Mc fans a couple of years ago, and let's not forget that what you guys posted back then wasn't meant to be a bit of kidding around like Tamb, Hawk and myself did here, you were serious and you kept posting the same rubbish for several years.
Man up now and get some sense of humor (maybe pino can lend you some ).

[standaman]

You bothered to reply, why?

For the very same reason you did reply, I have to much time right now as the race is over.

[movlabz]

"A number of teams...have all passed scrutineering."

Blimey

[ROYMANgo]

Did somebody call a taxi?
Oh dear..

[TobaccoNUE]

all seems fair to me. If they've been scrutineered then that's fine, whatever is 'illegal' must be something on a clarification side of things.

Tell that to Honda. Scrutineers okayed their fuel tanks when the FIA overuled them because Honda cheated by using them as ballast.

[xanonlinexan]

i struggle to see hwy these things should be able to get to the first race, and needing the introduction of rule clarifications - if the rules were clear in the forst place, not grey and riddled with holes you can interpret differently then these things would not happen. but if they deem that the teams (inc Mclaren and Renault) have goen down a route they didn't intend then they are more than entitled to ask them to change it in order to remain in the rules.

also iirc, the Ferrari floor thing necessitated a change in the checking mechanism rather than a clarification in the rule, as the design cleverly could get past the static test, but would technically be flexing under the loads in the race. the test was changed and therefore the floor couldn't get past it anymore. not technically illegal, it was a using the FIA's rules and tests against them to gain an advantage.

i'm kind of sick of this "spirit of the rules" rhetoric, write the rules clearly enough that the spirit of them is impossible to drive a cart and horses through!