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Old 10-04-2009, 03:30 PM   #21
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Vettel, Trulli, Hamilton, Räikkönen, Rosberg - a long list, isn't it?!

Very glad for Jarno, a much-needed drive, when there is a sword hanging over his entire F1-career. I don't know if this was his third last race in F1, but at least he has managed to get one podium for a potential positive ending, so that's great.
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Old 10-04-2009, 03:33 PM   #22
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Jarno - fantastic drive!
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Old 10-04-2009, 03:33 PM   #23
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Yes but Vettel started 18 spots in front?
yes..
comparing them in this race is quite useless quite different situation, but Vettel WAS impressive today.

sorry guys
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Old 10-04-2009, 03:42 PM   #24
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I forgot to add that this was also a debut race for both Vettel and Hamilton at Suzuka, so the kids have adapted really well to a new and difficult circuit, which has caught out several - mainly inexperienced - drivers this weekend.
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Old 10-04-2009, 04:20 PM   #25
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Button also gets some credit for getting up into the points and for being the only car in the top 8 to actually pass a car on track to improve his position
Yes credit due there. And like last week, he put in some crucial fast laps towards the end of the race that would have put him ahead of Rosberg if not for the safety car. If anything this was more impressive than last week because he was able to do that despite the fact that he pitted before Rosberg.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:31 PM   #26
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Definitely Sebastian Vettel, he was in a class of his own all weekend. Jarno Trulli also drove very well.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:31 PM   #27
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1. Trulli
2. Vettel
3. Heidfeld

Honourable mention for Alguersuari - now I know he crashed, but he did a brilliant job up until then on a very challenging track.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:43 PM   #28
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1. Trulli
2. Vettel
3. Heidfeld
Oh yes, Heidfeld - he has quite a remarkable knack of putting in solid performances without anyone actually noticing doesn't he I don't think I recall seeing him do anything at any point during the race but there he is in 6th place!
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:30 PM   #29
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Even though Vettel drove a perfect, faultless race today on a track he has to my knowledge not previously raced on, my award goes to Trulli who for once did not fall asleep during the race, but rather put in some fast laps when it mattered to jump ahead of Hamilton during the finals pit stops.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:31 PM   #30
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Why are you giving it to Vettel?
Because we don't hate him, unlike you.

And yeah Vettel was the driver of the race, no question about that, he simply had them all in his pocket.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:44 PM   #31
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i cant give my driver of the race to one driver, i have to give to two; Vettel and Trulli. both faultless, both brilliant and no problems, simple as.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:49 PM   #32
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Because we don't hate him, unlike you.

And yeah Vettel was the driver of the race, no question about that, he simply had them all in his pocket.
It was the best car, easily. So doesn't mean he was the best driver just because he won in it.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:52 PM   #33
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It was the best car, easily. So doesn't mean he was the best driver just because he won in it.
Did I miss the other 3 RedBull (STR) drivers taking 2nd 3rd and 4th?
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:00 PM   #34
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Did I miss the other 3 RedBull (STR) drivers taking 2nd 3rd and 4th?
The whole weekend they were busy crashing and runining Brawn GP's chances!
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:10 PM   #35
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Did I miss the other 3 RedBull (STR) drivers taking 2nd 3rd and 4th?
Are you insane? Did you actually follow the race or not?
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:30 PM   #36
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Are you insane? Did you actually follow the race or not?
I did follow the race and besides Vettel none of the RBR or STR cars came even close to getting a point.

My turn now, allow me to quote you: 'Are you insane? Did you actually follow the race or not?'
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:54 PM   #37
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I did follow the race and besides Vettel none of the RBR or STR cars came even close to getting a point.

My turn now, allow me to quote you: 'Are you insane? Did you actually follow the race or not?'
The STR is not anywhere near the RBR performance wise and has not been for the whole year. That is why did not come in the top five. Genius.

Webber had 3 pitstops in the first 4 laps. That is why he did not come close to being in the top five. Not because Vettel is just so much better than him.



I didn't think I'd have to explain something so obvious.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:44 AM   #38
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The STR is not anywhere near the RBR performance wise and has not been for the whole year. That is why did not come in the top five. Genius.
The difference being?! I suppose you have first hand knowledge of why the STR isn't as fast as the RBR, other than the engine and the drivers and BTW the engine used by STR is better than the Renault in the RBR.

Webber had 3 pitstops in the first 4 laps. That is why he did not come close to being in the top five. Not because Vettel is just so much better than him.
Nice to have car related excuses for Webber while claiming that Vettel only won because the car was good. The irony!
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:08 AM   #39
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Trulli and Webber - did good lap times for nearly two thirds of the race. A driver with lesser resilience would've parked it and got the next flight home.

Because we don't hate him, unlike you.

And yeah Vettel was the driver of the race, no question about that, he simply had them all in his pocket.
P*ss easy win. Never tested - by that I mean Webber didn't do quali and started from pitlane so unlike Silverstone we have not a great idea just how good Vettel was.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:15 AM   #40
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The difference being?! I suppose you have first hand knowledge of why the STR isn't as fast as the RBR, other than the engine and the drivers and BTW the engine used by STR is better than the Renault in the RBR.
It's pretty obvious judging by the gaps that the STR is a much inferior car to the RBR. Bourdais was a lot closer to Vettel than the STR drivers are, and Buemi is better than Bourdais.

Which suggests that the STR is considerably worse than the RBR, no?



Nice to have car related excuses for Webber while claiming that Vettel only won because the car was good. The irony! I really fail to see the irony, only your lack of understanding.

Let me explain this. You can't justify that Vettel drove a better race than Webber using the results because one had 3 pitstops in four laps and one didn't.
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