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09-27-2009, 08:44 PM | #1 |
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09-27-2009, 10:39 PM | #5 |
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Mark's just told the BBC that he feels aggrieved because Kimi got away with it in Spa (which in my opinion was premeditated) whereas here Alonso went wide forcing him off track. Alonso himself went off track but didn't have a penalty.
This was simply a good first-lap battle, hard but fair driving with no contact. I fail to see why anybody deserved a penalty. |
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09-27-2009, 10:41 PM | #6 |
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09-27-2009, 10:44 PM | #7 |
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Mark's just told the BBC that he feels aggrieved because Kimi got away with it in Spa (which in my opinion was premeditated) whereas here Alonso went wide forcing him off track. Alonso himself went off track but didn't have a penalty. I guess FIArarri live by a different set of rules than the rest of the teams. Webber has every right to be mad, That's why I don't want to see Todt there. He is about the worst choice of people to head up the FIA. |
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09-28-2009, 07:29 PM | #9 |
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09-28-2009, 07:38 PM | #11 |
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09-28-2009, 08:02 PM | #12 |
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Mark's just told the BBC that he feels aggrieved because Kimi got away with it in Spa (which in my opinion was premeditated) whereas here Alonso went wide forcing him off track. Alonso himself went off track but didn't have a penalty. Kimi took an option last time which was logical. Use the runoff / keep out of the trouble / make a couple of places. Personally I think this deserves a penalty unless he relinquishes the places. Webber did nearly the same. He had an option to get off the power but carried on and was forced wide. You have to ask yourself what would have been the result if there was a barrier there apart from a nice bit of Tarmac. Would both drivers have acted differently and not run wide? I want to see racing and drivers having a go but it has to be fair. If you go both tyres off track and gain an advantage, you get penalised by a drive through unless you give the place up. (and even then you might still get penalised as we very well know ) |
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09-29-2009, 12:19 AM | #13 |
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I have to say that there seems to be some Karma at work here.
In Valencia on the first lap, Webber more-or-less forced Button to cut the chicane, and then got straight on the radio asking for Button to be penalised. And indeed that is what happened, Webber got the place back, and only lost it again much later in the race. |
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09-29-2009, 01:02 AM | #14 |
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I have to say that there seems to be some Karma at work here. |
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09-29-2009, 01:34 AM | #15 |
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What Kimi did at Spa seemed (much) more blatant than what Webber did in Singapore. Though I like Kimi, he really seemed to be using the run-off to gain an advantage. And if I'm not mistaken, he did something very similar last year at Spa, during his battle with Hamilton.
IMO, the entire structure of the steward system needs to be shaken up and reformed. Right now it's a complete and total joke. And no, I don't think Jean Todt would be the man to do that. Putting him over the FIA would be like putting a fox in charge of the hen house. |
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09-29-2009, 07:47 AM | #16 |
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What Kimi did at Spa seemed (much) more blatant than what Webber did in Singapore. Though I like Kimi, he really seemed to be using the run-off to gain an advantage. And if I'm not mistaken, he did something very similar last year at Spa, during his battle with Hamilton. The stewards seem to regard the rule of "gaining advantage" as actually making as least a portion of the pass off the track. What Kimi did (and MS as well years back) was gain a great deal of added momentum by accelerating on a different line, yet make the pass inside the track proper. Webbers move seemed to be a combination of both, but for the most part the pass was made outside the line. I think BillBalds comment on karma does have a place here. |
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09-29-2009, 08:00 AM | #17 |
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09-29-2009, 04:34 PM | #18 |
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I have to say that there seems to be some Karma at work here. So if alonso made a slight error (which he did) and 4 cars passed him, should Webber have to give up 4 spots? you are supposed to give up the grid spot gained not who you passed. |
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09-30-2009, 02:03 AM | #19 |
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looks to me that Webber was a victim of the Kimi incident and perhaps the FIA saw they should have done something there and are choosing to punish people now. harsh on Webber, but we had similar things in Valencia too didn't we? Spa still stands out as the exception, the only difference there that there wasn't a kerb, just a white line
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09-30-2009, 02:03 AM | #20 |
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