[jgztw2es]

what do you think is up at Williams? Nico must leaving, they want out of the toyota engine and i dont know which sponsors they have lined up.

so chime in.

my dream scenario

Drivers:
Kimi
Hulkenberg

Engine:
Renault

New sponsor:
Telmex (lots of dough and if they impose later a pay driver it would a guy from my own hometown sergio perez)

real world
Barrichello
Hulkenberg

cosworth

frank's and patrick's checkbook.

[PickEmUp]

i dont think williams would need to use cosworths, by the looks of it, renault will be struggling for buyers of their engines any way, so it looks like renault are realistic. I think Hulkneburg is a dead cert, and im not too sure about the barrichello situation, sensibility would see him stay at brawn, but F1 is never sensible.....

Kimi IMO is a wild bet, but if fernando will be in a red car next year, and massa as his team mate, then macca, renault or williams would be best bet for kimi, but id bank on Mclaren for him.

I hope they have the sponsors, everyone else including new boys look to have good sponsorship deals, so hopefully williams can follow suit.

[jgztw2es]

but why did Patrick Head say renault should be heavily punished if they were found guilty of the Singapore incident?

if they were after Renault engines shouldnt Patrick be more diplomatic?

[PickEmUp]

I think head was really saying what the rest of the paddock were thinking. and diplomacy? this is F1........

[robstamps]

Well let's look at the engine options;

Mercedes - they've got too many teams already

Ferrari - LMAO

Toyota - well duh

BMW - even if they are not gone Williams burnt that bridge long ago.

Cossie - unlikely

Renault - The only remaining option.

[Olphander]

The engine issue is very uncertain as there hasn't been much to go by and it looks like Williams is keeping their options open.

I think it depends on the Brawn-Mercedes deal that is rumored. If that happens I expect Nico to go to Brawn. Also in this case the team could get a Merc engine for letting Rosberg go. Following that it is unlikely that either JB or RB would find a seat at Williams (maybe RB if he agrees to race for peanuts) so Williams would be looking to get a good driver as cheap as possible also as Hulkenberg is a rookie they might want an experienced one as well. The ones I see as possibilities could be Trulli and Raikkonen(with all or part of the salary paid by Ferrari if the ditch him for Fred).

If the Brawn-Merc deal doesn't go trough Williams is in competition to get the 'last' Merc engine with Red Bull. They have and edge with Rosberg as they could trade him for the engine.

It seems to be all up in the air at the moment.

[kSmica]

what do you think is up at Williams? Nico must leaving, they want out of the toyota engine and i dont know which sponsors they have lined up.

so chime in.

my dream scenario

Drivers:
Kimi
Hulkenberg

Engine:
Renault

New sponsor:
Telmex (lots of dough and if they impose later a pay driver it would a guy from my own hometown sergio perez)

real world
Barrichello
Hulkenberg

cosworth

frank's and patrick's checkbook.

Kimi will not drive for Williams. .

[jgztw2es]

Kimi will not drive for Williams. .

i know thats why i specified as dream scenario.

[ElisasAUG]

Renault is the alternative to Toyota. The team had a long successful association previously and they currently run Renault Lagunas in the BTCC.

I think that definitely Hulkenberg should be in a Williams and if he has any sense, so will Rosberg.

Other than Nico then maybe Kubica, Heidfeld or Kovaleinen.

[PypeMaypetasy]

but why did Patrick Head say renault should be heavily punished if they were found guilty of the Singapore incident?

if they were after Renault engines shouldnt Patrick be more diplomatic?

Because Patrick Head is a documented "idiot" How Frank got married to this guy I will never know!!

But I think that it is really still supertech engines powering the car. This of course is owned by Flavio so if Renault gets punted out of the series then Flavio will just be a engine supplier.

But with Barry Green and JV joining Williams and bringing cosworth it should be pretty exciting next year.

[wJswn5l3]

Why does everyone assume that Barichello is leaving Brawn? I think the most likely driver pairing for Brawn in 2010 is Button and Barichello, they seem to work extremely well together. Sure, Rubens may not have many more years in him but it's going blindingly well just now so any team boss would be a fool not to give him another year.

[PypeMaypetasy]

I agree Mark and if anyone leaves Brawn it will be either Button or Brawn retires RB which now I believe would be a mistake. Let the "Lap Dog" drive as long as he can still walk..

[Dastyh]

Why does everyone assume that Barichello is leaving Brawn? I think the most likely driver pairing for Brawn in 2010 is Button and Barichello, they seem to work extremely well together. Sure, Rubens may not have many more years in him but it's going blindingly well just now so any team boss would be a fool not to give him another year.

I think the driver symbiosis is an important factor at Brawn. Whilst I appreciate they are fighting like cats and dogs on track, there does seem a genuine affection between the two that was cemented during the Honda wilderness years.

[Azzi_Kahlila]

Rubens is fighting like a Terrier and driving better now than at any point in hhis career IMHO.

I don't know how hard he will take being beaten on a level playing field but I think he might even come back stronger next year.

Why get rid of a driver like that?

[wJswn5l3]

Certainly during the first half of the season it would seem to make sense to ditch Rubens as he was being regularly beaten by Button. But not any more. If it is down to the car or Rubens fighting like crazy during his best year in F1 who knows. But certainly if I were Brawn I'd be keeping my current pairing.

However there are rumours of discord inside the team between Rubens and Ross Brawn so you never know.

[infarrelisam]

Needs a better technical team and strategists. Williams is a team that relies on fantastic cars to draw top drivers, moreso than other teams.

[Blotassefesek]

Why does everyone assume that Barichello is leaving Brawn? I think the most likely driver pairing for Brawn in 2010 is Button and Barichello, they seem to work extremely well together. Sure, Rubens may not have many more years in him but it's going blindingly well just now so any team boss would be a fool not to give him another year.

Depends how much pressure Mercedes put on the team, especially if they buy out Brawn as has been rumoured. Having Button/Rosberg would keep them happy, especially if Raikkonen returns to McLaren.

As for Williams, I hope they bring in a relatively big name driver - by which I mean Barrichello/Heidfeld/Kubica (possibly) - alongside Hulkenberg who looks like a promising driver. The engine situation is quite another, Renault's units don't seem much better than Toyota, and if Renault leave the sport then their options are very limited.

[robstamps]

.....currently run Renault Lagunas in the BTCC..... Eh? St D have I been transported back to 1997?

[Nabeqiv]

Needs a better technical team and strategists. Williams is a team that relies on fantastic cars to draw top drivers, moreso than other teams.

Because they have a history of treating drivers like dirt if they don't perform as well as WilliamsF1 believes they should.....

Not as devious as Briatore, but they do have a long-standing reputation.

ClarkFan

[ONLINEPHARMACYCHEAPILLS]

But with Barry Green and JV joining Williams and bringing cosworth it should be pretty exciting next year.

The what, the who, the huh???!!!

Barry Green? And JV, as in Jacques Villeneuve?

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?!