[PypeMaypetasy]

The what, the who, the huh???!!!

Barry Green? And JV, as in Jacques Villeneuve?

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?!

I was just trying to verify if anyone reads my posts. Thanks Jag

Stay tuned for more!!

[illiderob]

what do you think is up at Williams? Nico must leaving, they want out of the toyota engine and i dont know which sponsors they have lined up.

so chime in.

my dream scenario

Drivers:
Kimi
Hulkenberg

Engine:
Renault

New sponsor:
Telmex (lots of dough and if they impose later a pay driver it would a guy from my own hometown sergio perez)

real world
Barrichello
Hulkenberg

cosworth

frank's and patrick's checkbook.

I think they will go with Kubica or Heidfeld or maybe even Kovalainen (if one of them think that is a good place to go).
I think we all know that Hulkenberg is going to be there.
Maybe they go back to Renault, or they choose the Cosworth engine too.
Maybe they can persuade Honda to supply them engines. LD

[Nabeqiv]

The what, the who, the huh???!!!

Barry Green? And JV, as in Jacques Villeneuve?

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?!

Maybe Uncle slipped on the keyboard and meant to type "Red Green" for his all-Canadian driver team:

http://www.redgreen.com/cast.htm

Although, being younger and more technically oriented, Red's nephew Harold is a likelier driver pick.

The Red Green team could also provide much more cost-effective design strategies, such as constructing the car entirely out of duct tape (the handyman's secret weapon) - which also makes the aerodynamics instantly modifiable. Regarding engines, there is a nearly endless supply of Chrysler K-car blocks available, again at a massive cost saving. The Green Group has already started in race car design:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0d_KEiIHiU



ClarkFan

[T5qYkHWQ]

Regarding Barrichello-Brawn situation: as Mercedes is looking to buy into Brawn, it could pave Rosberg's way into the team. Actually if Alonso indeed goes to Ferrari, I personally expect Rosberg and Räikkönen to share the second Brawn/McLaren drive between them. If Alonso doesn't go to Ferrari, Barrichello has a chance to stay in Brawn.

The future of Williams? They haven't reached top level for some time already and looking at Force India's sudden progress, who arguably is racing on a smaller budget than Williams, I must assume Williams' issues can't lay mainly on finances. It feels like the team has 'lost' something after Sam Michael became chief designer in 2005. Also the engine question could be vital here. FI is doing well with MB's, so maybe Williams could finally get close to the top as well if they got MB for 2010? Anyway, I reckon with Renault engine not much is going to change in their competitiveness and with Cosworth... suspect a downwards swing.

Drivers? Hülkenberg will surely join the team and considering his pre-F1 career has been at least as impressive as Hamilton's, I would recommend to follow this kid closely next year - he could become the revelation of the season. If someone like Barrichello/Heidfeld joins him, Nico2 () would get a perfect benchmark for his debut season. I guess those two are the main contenders for the Williams drive at the moment, although some hazy Kovalainen rumours have existed as well. Those rumours might actually become a reality if Rubens indeed stays at Brawn and Heidfeld opts to stay in post-Sauber.

[Blotassefesek]

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/...driver-market/

Kubica seems to be keen to move to Williams, which he sees as being a team that knows how to win. The problem is that Renault F1 wanted Kubica to replace Fernando Alonso as there are no other star names available and was blocking the Williams engine deal if the team signed Robert. The word at Monza was that if Kubica does not join Williams the job will go instead to Rubens Barrichello, who will swap drives with Nico Rosberg, who is the choice of Mercedes-Benz for Brawn. This is the problem that Williams have - without a manufacturer they get second choice in the driver market. Kubica could be a good choice but Renault have the final say in who to supply engines to.

[jgztw2es]

things are not looking good for williams. they wanted to run mercedes engines but according to autosport the request has already been denied by mercedes. their second choice would be renault but renault is in deep creek without a paddle their third choice would be cosworth or toyota with kazuki. and besides ending up with a ty engine the decision isnt made yet so there wont be much time to design a chassis around the turd they end up with.

[DP5Ups8o]

"there wont be much time to design a chassis around the turd they end up with"

Brawn dropped a merc in their car designed for a honda engine and it worked fine.

[ggiifdfalls]

things are not looking good for williams. they wanted to run mercedes engines but according to autosport the request has already been denied by mercedes. their second choice would be renault but renault is in deep creek without a paddle their third choice would be cosworth or toyota with kazuki. and besides ending up with a ty engine the decision isnt made yet so there wont be much time to design a chassis around the turd they end up with.

They can still ask Ferrari to supply them with what is a great engine.
Oh wait, they didn't really make friends with Ferrari for ages.

[xsVfF9Em]

They can still ask Ferrari to supply them with what is a great engine.
Oh wait, they didn't really make friends with Ferrari for ages.

I don't think they are that desperate yet dude, I think they'll ride out the Renault storm, or maybe they'll raid their display room at Grove...

[ggiifdfalls]

I don't think they are that desperate yet dude, I think they'll ride out the Renault storm, or maybe they'll raid their display room at Grove...

Or they will install push pedals, but they will never ask for a Ferrari engine never ever, better dead than a Ferrari engine in a Grove based car!

[jgztw2es]

"there wont be much time to design a chassis around the turd they end up with"

Brawn dropped a merc in their car designed for a honda engine and it worked fine.

two keywords here:

brawn
mercedes

as much as i like williams (fovourite team) they dont have a person as good as ross on their staff and they wont have as good engines as a mercedes.

[Rexaviennatutr]

OK, no links. I've read that many links and stories regarding Renault that I'm not going to provide references to the following.

It seems that Frank is keen on getting Renault engines but Sleazy Flav was blocking it because Frank was also keen on Kubica. Following the latest developments at Renault, with the departure of Flav, things might work out OK.

The, there is the case of Red Bull not being overly happy with the engines they've been getting from Renault. This is then complicated by the hearing on Monday and any punishments meted out, which could see the end of Renault's participation in the remainder of the competition this year, which may then see Renault's departure from F1.

This would play into Frank's hand because Renault may still wish to see the name Renault associated with F1, even if they didn't run their own team. We may yet see Frank's return to the halcyon days of Rothmans Sonax Williams Renault, albeit with slightly different sponsors.

I wouldn't worry too much about the Global Economic Crisis in regards to sponsorship, as the crisis is all but over already and by next year, sponsors will be rushing back to sponsor a possible winning team.

[jgztw2es]

hopefully valve's hunch is correct and williams is able to get kubica, hulkenberg and renault. that would be a step up in engines and the driver pairing is stronger.

[anatmob]

Why does everyone assume that Barichello is leaving Brawn? I think the most likely driver pairing for Brawn in 2010 is Button and Barichello, they seem to work extremely well together. Sure, Rubens may not have many more years in him but it's going blindingly well just now so any team boss would be a fool not to give him another year.

I agree but the driver market is wide open this year, Rosberg and possibly Kimi are up for grabs and BMW's demise means Kubica and Heidfeld are also looking. Next year many of the best guys on the market would have been snapped up so this is the ideal time to get someone young and fast.

As for Williams, I hear they've been busy recruiting staff recently and ditching free Toyota engines means they'll have to pay for someone elses engine whether its Renault or whoever. Seems like they've come into some cash recently, would love to know where from....

[ElisasAUG]

Or they will install push pedals, but they will never ask for a Ferrari engine never ever, better dead than a Ferrari engine in a Grove based car!

Better ded than red - always.

[ElisasAUG]

I wouldn't worry too much about the Global Economic Crisis in regards to sponsorship, as the crisis is all but over already and by next year, sponsors will be rushing back to sponsor a possible winning team.

Heard of "double-dip"?

Anyway, I agree that the ideal Williams team for 2009 would be Kubica and Hulkenberg for Grove but with a Mercedes engine.

I think the Renault team success without Briatore, unless they secure the services of Dave Richards, is permanently over.

If Kubica signs for Renault in 2010 he may as well go on a sea cruise and eat what he wants! The racing results will be the same, ZERO.

[reiseebup]

I do think it's most likely that they'll be using Cosworths next year, which is a shame as they're bound to be off the pace. Mercedes are providing enough engines as it is and have stated that they won't supply Williams; Ferrari will be supplying enough engines if Sauber make it, they seem to have fallen out with Toyota, possibly as a result of the FOTA break, and they may pull out anyway, and Renault are probably leaving when Max throws a large penalty at them as his final if I can't control F1 then nobody will move. Cosworth are the only option. I expect that they'll beat the new teams should any of them actually turn up, but I don't imagine they'll beat anyone else.

[jgztw2es]

well renault is still in f1 till 2011 so it might be possible to get renault engines.

maybe its kubica hulkenberg and renault or whoever (barrichello, heidfield, sutil, kimi rosberg) , hulkenberg and renault.