[loolitoertego]

... if Ferrari wants to.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74995

But, Luca, try to justify to the BOD the need for higher spending if others are doing great in F1 without doing so.

Pull that rabbit out of the hat, okay?

[BeaseHoca]

Max really is a clever sod. Backs up what I thought, the manufacturer teams will have to accept the budget cap or leave.

[engacenus]

christophulus is right. with the advantages budget caps get, all the teams will have to choose the budget cap to be competitive I think. Clever clever Max, maybe he can be alright after all............

[rorsvierwelia]

Standard mosley 'negotiating'. Its my way or the high way.

[autoloanexpert]

IMO Ferrari should not go to war with the FIA. What happened to McLaren, can happen to them as well.

[RogHammon]

christophulus is right. with the advantages budget caps get, all the teams will have to choose the budget cap to be competitive I think. Clever clever Max, maybe he can be alright after all............

I wouldn't go that far! Max is a devious little tyrant who will try to crush anyone who doesn't fall in line with his thinking. Reminds me of a "little Hitler" (inference intended.)

[engacenus]

I wouldn't go that far! Max is a devious little tyrant who will try to crush anyone who doesn't fall in line with his thinking. Reminds me of a "little Hitler" (inference intended.)

Why do I find Little Hitler to be perfectly appropriate?

thats a good way of looking at it though, ''Mein Vay oder Getz Lozt!''

[RogHammon]

IMO Ferrari should not go to war with the FIA. What happened to McLaren, can happen to them as well.

I'd like to see them avoid the "war" by pulling out of F1 and entering a different series like LMS/ALMS. How about a diesel Ferrari Prototype at LeMans in 2010? There is also talk of "Fiat" providing the engines for IRL (hmm, who would build the "Fiat" engines???).

[rorsvierwelia]

I wouldn't go that far! Max is a devious little tyrant who will try to crush anyone who doesn't fall in line with his thinking. Reminds me of a "little Hitler" (inference intended.)

It just strikes me as a group of 5 year olds fighting over a game of kiddy football. Max says 'its my garden so its my rules" and ferrari say "fine we're taking our ball and going home".

[autoloanexpert]

I'd like to see them avoid the "war" by pulling out of F1 and entering a different series like LMS/ALMS. How about a diesel Ferrari Prototype at LeMans in 2010? There is also talk of "Fiat" providing the engines for IRL (hmm, who would build the "Fiat" engines???).

A Ferrari LMP 1 car would be fantastic, but IMO there is no series which can give Ferrari the same prestige as F1 - neither IRL nor Le Mans can do this IMO.

[RogHammon]

A Ferrari LMP 1 car would be fantastic, but IMO there is no series which can give Ferrari the same prestige as F1 - neither IRL nor Le Mans can do this IMO.

Maybe we should be asking if the name Ferrari can give a series prestige? A couple of Ferrari LMP 1's romping around Europe in the LMS and the US in ALMS would give a lot of publicity to those series (and probably cost Ferrari a lot less.)

Would F1 then be as popular or as attractive to the casual fan without the name Ferrari racing?

[RogHammon]

It just strikes me as a group of 5 year olds fighting over a game of kiddy football. Max says 'its my garden so its my rules" and ferrari say "fine we're taking our ball and going home".

More like Max is saying, "it's my garden so I'll change the rules as often as I want until I get my way."

[JMLot]

Interesting comments from Bernie re: Max v Ferrari:
Ecclestone is smoothing troubled waters in Mosley’s wake. “The trouble with Max is he’s not capable, like in the past, of wrapping things up nicely with a pink ribbon and things. He wants to put it in an old cardboard box and tie it with string,” Ecclestone said.
The billionaire impresario said that he would not allow Mosley to “destroy” Di Montezemolo, as some at Ferrari believe he is intent on doing.
“I won’t let it happen,” he said.
“The trouble with Luca,” he said of the flamboyant Ferrari president, who has engaged in a war of words with Mosley in correspondence that was subsequently leaked to the press, “is that you shouldn’t let Max ever be in a position where he can start a debate or an argument. He’s reasonably clever and you won’t win. Even if you do win, it’s like you being in the audience and me being there with the microphone. You say something smart and I don’t give you the microphone — it’s as easy as that.” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6216238.ece

[loolitoertego]

Maybe we should be asking if the name Ferrari can give a series prestige? A couple of Ferrari LMP 1's romping around Europe in the LMS and the US in ALMS would give a lot of publicity to those series (and probably cost Ferrari a lot less.)

Would F1 then be as popular or as attractive to the casual fan without the name Ferrari racing?

another history lesson...

Ferrari 333SP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_333_SP
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/ferrari333.html

[syptopsygieds]

Bernie: I'll protect Ferrari
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...278544,00.html
The F1 supremo admitted that he is however in favour the budget caps, but suggested that the £40 million cap may be increased to £60 million for next year

[Adimonnna]

Interesting comments from Bernie re: Max v Ferrari:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6216238.ece

Seems like only a few seasons ago that Max and Bernie were joined at the hip while the teams were in disarray. Now the teams are united via FOTA - at least for the time being - while Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber appear constantly at loggerheads.

[rorsvierwelia]

"Appear" is the key word in that. Those two are still thick as theives and will be showing a unified front again just as soon as they have what they want/need.

[slimsex]

Seems like only a few seasons ago that Max and Bernie were joined at the hip while the teams were in disarray. Now the teams are united via FOTA - at least for the time being - while Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber appear constantly at loggerheads.

Well, Bernie sees the real big picture. WIth Ferrari gone F1 would be half as interesting which would eventually turn into half the money. You just wont have the same crowds following Brawn beating Red Bull.

[leacturavar]

This is posturing on all sides. They all need each other and a compromise will be found, so I am not worried.

[Fiesialenp]

I'd like to see them avoid the "war" by pulling out of F1 and entering a different series like LMS/ALMS. How about a diesel Ferrari Prototype at LeMans in 2010? There is also talk of "Fiat" providing the engines for IRL (hmm, who would build the "Fiat" engines???).

Diesel Ferrari? No way! But given that a great deal of the marque's motorsport-related lustre is derived from its sportscar racing days as well as F1, I would love to see a return to Le Mans as part of a proper worldwide sportscar racing series.