[mikefertynnz]

I have to say that I’m disappointed with Heikki.

I really hoped he would be able to push Lewis but it seems Lewis is more than capable of pushing himself.

It’s always difficult when you have someone come in that you know can be quick but is trounced by his team mate. You question the 2nd driver without considering the 1st.

Possibly it’s a combination of a few things. HK is more conservative and happy to bring a car home in second whereas Lewis is more aggressive and daring. It may also be skill level with Lewis just being a quicker?

Whatever it is, HK isn’t delivering as expected.

[mikefertynnz]

I have to say that I’m disappointed with Heikki.

I really hoped he would be able to push Lewis but it seems Lewis is more than capable of pushing himself.

It’s always difficult when you have someone come in that you know can be quick but is trounced by his team mate. You question the 2nd driver without considering the 1st.

Possibly it’s a combination of a few things. HK is more conservative and happy to bring a car home in second whereas Lewis is more aggressive and daring. It may also be skill level with Lewis just being a quicker?

Whatever it is, HK isn’t delivering as expected.

[mikefertynnz]

Sorry, Hiccups

[Glamyclitlemi]

Heikki just doesn't have that cutting edge/killer instinct that Lewis and the other top drivers do. People said at the start of the season he could run his team-mate close but I've yet to really see any sign of that in a race.

Taking nothing away from Vettel, but that was surely Heikki's race against a guy of such inexperience in a slower car. I think I'm right in saying Kova has been shoddy off the line all season and I'm sure this played a big part in him losing.

[vipBrooriErok]

Maybe we are being a a bit harsh on Kovalainen. At least he managed to qualify in a decent position in challenging conditions at Monza, when the 3 title contenders were nowhere.

[mikefertynnz]

Maybe we are being a a bit harsh on Kovalainen. At least he managed to qualify in a decent position in challenging conditions at Monza, when the 3 title contenders were nowhere.

I agree that he was the only one that delivered in qualifying.

It's just that I believe that in those conditions, the Ferrari and McLaren were superior to the STR so why the hell did he start and finish in 2nd?

BUT, he did do the bizzo and brought back 8 valuable points.

[Fosavoa]

I agree that he was the only one that delivered in qualifying.

It's just that I believe that in those conditions, the Ferrari and McLaren were superior to the STR so why the hell did he start and finish in 2nd?

BUT, he did do the bizzo and brought back 8 valuable points.

LOL

that's what he probably told the folks during their debrief. And they were probably like " thanks, good job Kovi" with no exuberance. How come his teammate manages to close up to 1 second behind Vettel from p15 and he can't even challenge the guy starting from p2.

Yeah for the first 2 laps he may have been hindered by the spary. but after things settled a bit and Sv was like 5-6 seconds ahead, Kovi should have made his move and started reeling him in. Instead we got nothing all race from him.

[Dxwlxqvg]

I can't help but think that the Italian GP was there for Kovy to win.

Massa would've won, Lewis would've won, I even think Kimi would've won from that position!

And if Ferrari had given me a drive, I might have won too!!

[AlabamaBoyz]

I'm inclined to think that MacLeran had Their drivers on 2 completely different set-ups (Kovy on the low downforce if it stayed dry, and Hams on the high downforce because it was suppose to rain...) I think Heikki's problem was he had to keep a distance because of the spray, and once the was some good visibility, his Mac cooked the rears and he was already pretty far behind...

[Dxwlxqvg]

Did anyone consider that, maybe, Vettel was simply faster and drove better than the rest of them?

[FourEsters]

Did anyone consider that, maybe, Vettel was simply faster and drove better than the rest of them?

The kitty is astonished by your outside-the-box thinking.



Kovy didn't deliver. Let's move on folks, nothing to see here!

[Ikrleprl]

I find it a bit hard to criticize the driver who finished 2nd! It's not like he was stuck down in 17th - 20th! Give the guy a break!

[Dxwlxqvg]

No reason to criticise Kovi - he drove exceedingly well under difficult circumstances. However, to say he shoulda won is just plain nonsense - he was beaten in all respects by a better drive by Vettel in a Torro Rosso, no less.

Let's put this into perspective and stop the Shooda, cooda wooda jive.

[teodaschwartia]

Could be that the Toro Rosso was simply the vest car for the conditions. They qualified the best (1st and 4th) out of anyone as well.

[Ikrleprl]

Could be that the Toro Rosso was simply the vest car for the conditions. They qualified the best (1st and 4th) out of anyone as well.

Nah, it couldn't be that simple - we must spend pages of posts analyzing the race to find the real reason Vettel won.

[Retapleapse]

Could be that the Toro Rosso was simply the vest car for the conditions. They qualified the best (1st and 4th) out of anyone as well.

I've had enough of your well reasoned and unbiased posting. If you keep on like this I'm going to report you!!!!

[teodaschwartia]

I've had enough of your well reasoned and unbiased posting. If you keep on like this I'm going to report you!!!!

[TepSteade]

LOL

that's what he probably told the folks during their debrief. And they were probably like " thanks, good job Kovi" with no exuberance. How come his teammate manages to close up to 1 second behind Vettel from p15 and he can't even challenge the guy starting from p2.

I think you should take into account Hamiltons blistering pace wasn't sustainable. He pushed it heavy on stint after, only to find he'd used his tyres and ended up being 1s + slower than Vettel.

[Fosavoa]

I think you should take into account Hamiltons blistering pace wasn't sustainable. He pushed it heavy on stint after, only to find he'd used his tyres and ended up being 1s + slower than Vettel.

That being said, the car was still more than a mtach for the STR ( I' can;t beleive I saying this..) and if Hamilton could find a way with a heavier fule load and a longer stint on ttyres to get up there then surely Kovy could have found a way past Vettel with a McLaren. I am pretty sure that if Hamilton was sitting Second he would have passed Vettel or at the veryworst given him a stiff challenge for the win.

[TepSteade]

That being said, the car was still more than a mtach for the STR ( I' can;t beleive I saying this..) and if Hamilton could find a way with a heavier fule load and a longer stint on ttyres to get up there then surely Kovy could have found a way past Vettel with a McLaren. I am pretty sure that if Hamilton was sitting Second he would have passed Vettel or at the veryworst given him a stiff challenge for the win.

Yeah but we're talking about different circumstances.

Hamilton found his way past slower cars. Vettel was consistantly in the top 3 fastest cars lap by lap. Hamilton was fighting with cars down in 8th, 9th, 10th etc etc.

So obviously he came through much quicker, as they were travelling 2-3s slower than Vettel. If you look at Hamiltons pace near the end, it was simply not sustainable.

I think maybe Hamilton would have been able to win if he started up the grid, but just pointing out we shouldn't give Kovi too much of a hard time for his performance in Monza.

Albeit I do think he has been disappointing this season.