[poekfpojoibien]

So, not at the end of the pitlane after all then...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65575

It is believed that the practical issue of where to place McLaren's large motorhome in paddocks was one of the reasons for keeping the team away from the bottom end of the pitlane. So what about at the newer tracks where there is more paddock space then huh...?
I can't believe Bernie and those McLaren whingers have managed to pull this off.

I propose we all club together and donate five pounds a month, or whatever you can spare, to the "Scuderia Toro Rosso Megabus" campaign. All we have to do is put together enough money to fund a new motorhome for them and they can be between Ferrari and BMW!!.

How unbelievably sad it is that the size of a cheating team's motorhome can actually prevent them from receiving their due and agreed punishment.

This, frankly, stinks.

Can we get a petition together to make the entire team work in fat suits, thereby limiting their work space to that of the end garages? Or blindfold them perhaps? Or both...

[nintenda]

F1 stinks on the McLaren side!
Bernie is not giving up on protecting Lewy's chances!

As soon as Bernie will be gone F1 might become fair until that it will be one persons Monopoly game. He's the one who protected McLaren and their drivers from being given what they deserved, exclusion or 2 seasons!

Anyway, who cares as long as Ferrari walk all over them?

[Ruilnasr]

Hardly surprising considering Ron and Bernie's chums wouldn't want to be seen with the likes of Super Aguri

[vNZsk39B]

So what, if I may ask?

[shumozar]

Re hashed making it's rounds again!! OLD NEWS
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Bernie moves McLaren up to Pit 5 - 13th Feb 08, 22:07

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I'm not making a big deal out of this, but I had assumed that being relegated to last place in the WCC
meant having to deal with "ALL" the consequences!

http://www.feedmef1.com/html/modules...cle&sid= 9332

However, despite having all its points taken away last season amid the espionage scandal,
it seems that McLaren will call the fifth garages home in 2008.

The Finnish daily newspaper Turun Sanomat reports that Bernie Ecclestone has ordered the re-shuffle
so that one of F1's 'Big Two' teams can still have access to first class circuit facilities this year.

It is reported that Ecclestone, F1's chief executive,
actually wanted Mercedes-powered McLaren to have the third pit area,
but Renault - officially third in the championship last year - objected.

At most F1 circuits, the first three pit garages are wider and include better amenities for its personnel and guests.


At least Renault held their ground! and said "**** ***"!!!

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[nintenda]

So what, if I may ask?

Rules are broken, again, to favor the McC&L! Indeed, so what?!

[nintenda]

Re hashed making it's rounds again!! OLD NEWS
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Bernie moves McLaren up to Pit 5 - 13th Feb 08, 22:07

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I'm not making a big deal out of this, but I had assumed that being relegated to last place in the WCC
meant having to deal with "ALL" the consequences!

http://www.feedmef1.com/html/modules...cle&sid= 9332

However, despite having all its points taken away last season amid the espionage scandal,
it seems that McLaren will call the fifth garages home in 2008.

The Finnish daily newspaper Turun Sanomat reports that Bernie Ecclestone has ordered the re-shuffle
so that one of F1's 'Big Two' teams can still have access to first class circuit facilities this year.

It is reported that Ecclestone, F1's chief executive,
actually wanted Mercedes-powered McLaren to have the third pit area,
but Renault - officially third in the championship last year - objected.

At most F1 circuits, the first three pit garages are wider and include better amenities for its personnel and guests.


At least Renault held their ground! and said "**** ***"!!!

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Well done Flav! Kick 'em!

[xiaoselangone]

So, not at the end of the pitlane after all then...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65575



So what about at the newer tracks where there is more paddock space then huh...?
I can't believe Bernie and those McLaren whingers have managed to pull this off.

I propose we all club together and donate five pounds a month, or whatever you can spare, to the "Scuderia Toro Rosso Megabus" campaign. All we have to do is put together enough money to fund a new motorhome for them and they can be between Ferrari and BMW!!.

How unbelievably sad it is that the size of a cheating team's motorhome can actually prevent them from receiving their due and agreed punishment.

This, frankly, stinks.

Can we get a petition together to make the entire team work in fat suits, thereby limiting their work space to that of the end garages? Or blindfold them perhaps? Or both...

Actually RD wanted the 3rd spot. BUT Renault, the owner of that spot said no. The moral is: when you are a small team, do as you are told, otherwise you'll suffer the consequences (Don Corleone)

[xiaoselangone]

So what, if I may ask?

I like this guy. He would make murder legal, if it could help McLaren

[nintenda]

Actually RD wanted the 3rd spot. BUT Renault, the owner of that spot said no. The moral is: when you are a small team, do as you are told, otherwise you'll suffer the consequences (Don Corleone)

I still don't understand why the likes of Williams, RedBull and Toyota agreed to this sh!t.

[pitoufsd]

I still don't understand why the likes of Williams, RedBull and Toyota agreed to this sh!t.

Haven't Toyota and Honda got large motorhomes too? Maybe they should demand a garage next to Ferrari's.

Maybe that's the reason, why for example Toyota hasn't been successful in F1. They came to F1, got the last garage and since then have never had enough room to operate as they'd like.

[shumozar]

Haven't Toyota and Honda got large motorhomes too? Maybe they should demand a garage next to Ferrari's.

Maybe that's the reason, why for example Toyota hasn't been successful in F1. They came to F1, got the last garage and since then have never had enough room to operate as they'd like.

You know what Jens? That's funny![

[twiffatticy]

Re hashed making it's rounds again!! OLD NEWS

Old new, schmold news. It's another opportunity to bash McLaren

[Lebybynctisee]

Old new, schmold news. It's another opportunity to bash McLaren

I'm still at the composer of the 'make murder legal for McLaren' post.

[vNZsk39B]

I like this guy. He would make murder legal, if it could help McLaren

Don't understand what you mean by your comment but could you or anyone else explain what difference it makes where you are located on the pitlane like I was asking in my post?

I know it's in the rules so no point repeating that but is there any other reason any benefits to get to the beginning of the pitlane?

[shumozar]

Like I stated in the thread that I happened to introduce this subject(see "Bernies Big Mouth")
I have very little doubt that pit position 5 was aquired for a cash retainer.
The article then feb/13/08 as now, makes it sound like Bernie ordered it.
If it was aquired from the team that officially would have been designated to it for other$$$ considerations,
it is a non-issue! Thank God we have a race in less than seven days,
because starting the whining all over again is almost enough to get me to fly the
bloody Union Jack (and white up )

[gvataler]

super duper news and great thread... always the same people using every opportunity to embarrass themselves...

[xiaoselangone]

Don't understand what you mean by your comment but could you or anyone else explain what difference it makes where you are located on the pitlane like I was asking in my post?

I know it's in the rules so no point repeating that but is there any other reason any benefits to get to the beginning of the pitlane?

My understanding is, the closer you are to the exit, the better. If there was no difference or if there was an advantage in being in the last garage, McLaren would have stayed there.

[xiaoselangone]

I still don't understand why the likes of Williams, RedBull and Toyota agreed to this sh!t.

You know? it blows my mind. The only thing I can think of is money. And still.... I am sure that there is a reason ( I am sure a real good reason) why these teams agreed to this change. Now, what it is, escapes my understanding.

[pataagusata]

So what, if I may ask?

I believe it's called rules!