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Old 03-15-2008, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default We got duped in Q3
Here I was expecting to see the drivers driving fast laps the whole ten minutes but instead the revised Q3 left us with more drivers going on fuel saving laps at approx 0kmh. Definitely not what I want to see in qualifying.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:47 AM   #2
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Don't know quite what to make of that. Did Massa let up on his last lap after a bad split time to conserve fuel as well?
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:26 PM   #3
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Vettel didn't even register a time...he just scrubbed tires on a warmup lap and then called it quits!
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:30 PM   #4
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Q3 should be low fuel. None of this race fuel bull. Just let the teams declare how much fuel they want to start the race with before Q3 and let them run light to see who is actually fastest for a change.
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:31 PM   #5
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Only one way to solve this: allow refueling after quals. and I have been saying that all along. This is going from stupid to abduller.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:48 PM   #6
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And again we have the absurd situation of the fastest time recorded during the whole of qualifying not being the time that gave the pole position man his pole position. This really needs to be changed.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:51 PM   #7
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No one set any time until 5 minutes left. Glock set a Q3 time that was 2.5 seconds slower than Hamilton. Vettel didnt even bother.

Proof that Q3 is a joke, hopefully the FIA will see that it needs fixing, licketty-split.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:52 PM   #8
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Vettel didn't even register a time...he just scrubbed tires on a warmup lap and then called it quits!
He had a mechanical problem, otherwise we might have had a surprise position coming from this young man!
Definitely he's the one to watch for very good drives this season.
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:06 PM   #9
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Vettel is very fast and I think that soon he will challenge for points regularly. DC also drove very well.
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:11 PM   #10
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i think q3 + q2 + q1 /3 to determine grid position
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:27 PM   #11
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Vettel had Mechanical Problems and Glock had a Ten Place Grid Penalty, but still a little dissapoiting.
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:30 PM   #12
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i think q3 + q2 + q1 /3 to determine grid position
Just let everybody refuel after Q3 if you want action!!
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:28 PM   #13
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Vettel had Mechanical Problems and Glock had a Ten Place Grid Penalty, but still a little dissapoiting.
Which is one less car for Kimi to have to pass
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Old 03-15-2008, 08:30 PM   #14
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1 hour. Unlimited laps. Single Race Qualifying engines.
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:30 PM   #15
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And again we have the absurd situation of the fastest time recorded during the whole of qualifying not being the time that gave the pole position man his pole position. This really needs to be changed.
Yeah, agree, but if they're going to keep this up, maybe we should be told how much fuel each car is carrying so we know the times relative to the weight they're carrying. If not, just have low tanks, and lightest car is fastest. Simple.
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:30 PM   #16
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That was pretty bad. I really hope that they do something about that. One flying lap to decide the top 10 is silly, if they're going to do that then they might as well revert to the single lap qualifying of a few years ago.
Toro Rosso are claiming that Vettel broke down, but I think that that might just be an excuse.
Hopefully in future races it won't be as bad even if there are no further changes, as I think that a number of quite big teams really messed up qualifiying today by leaving it too late and getting caught out by yellow flags and traffic.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:20 PM   #17
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Here I was expecting to see the drivers driving fast laps the whole ten minutes but instead the revised Q3 left us with more drivers going on fuel saving laps at approx 0kmh. Definitely not what I want to see in qualifying.
You sound a bit naive to expect that.

They shaved off 5mins from last year, still fuel-load qualifying so why should they do hot laps for most of Q3?

And even if it was low fuel qualy we would've seen the cars venturing out in the last 5mins which is no worse than the old 1hr system when nothing happened for the first 20mins!
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:25 PM   #18
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I cant see why we stoped the old skool qly format and hour 12 laps. this q1,q2,q3 format is a joke
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:43 PM   #19
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Agreed that there wasn't much wrong with th 12 lap format apart from the first 15 minutes so just cut it back to a 45 minute session. I haven't got a lot of problems with the current way apart from Q3. Didn't see the last 2 sessions today but it all sounds very similar to lasr year.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:07 PM   #20
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I have to agree with Valve on this one. Qualifying is meant to be the fastest time you can do in the allocated time, the fastest qualifier should get pole. I think you should start the race with the fuel load that you want, and according to your strategy. This Q1,Q2,Q3 with fuel limitations is just rubbish. Build the best car, use the best driver, have the best team, isn't that what it is supposed to be about ? Perhaps they will make footballers that score more than 5 goals in the season wear leg irons to even things out. The best is the best, and these teams pay millions upon millions trying to be the best, only to have to sand bag in Qualifying to get the chance to be competitive for the race. I don't like this situation one bit. I would like to see teams slug it out without all this BS. Perhaps they should have no pit stops, and an allocation of fuel for the whole race, one set of tyres and see who can win in those conditions. Now that would be great to see IMO.
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