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Old 02-28-2008, 08:44 AM   #1
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Default Nakajima out to beat Rosberg this year.
It's true; this is what the guy says: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65341

Of course, I for one will not be holding his breath.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:51 AM   #2
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...but behind that Toyota money is potential.

Not many drivers race an F1 car for the first time and set a faster lap than their team-mate. The ones that do are generally pretty handy (Rosberg being the case in point).
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:12 PM   #3
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Good on him. I think he is setting himself a goal, and I hope he does well. I think he is also realistic enough to state that it will be difficult, but not impossible to beat Nico I wish him well.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:53 PM   #4
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Not really any news. Isn't the first goal of any F1 driver to beat your teammate?
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:06 PM   #5
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Not really any news. Isn't the first goal of any F1 driver to beat your teammate?
Preposterous suggestion!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:58 PM   #6
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Not for Rubens and Eddie at Ferrari

Seriously though Nakajima looks good. I thought in early testing that he wasn't going to be close to Nico this year, but he's really picked it up in the last month or so and has been really good.

I hope he does well and we get another Japanese driver on the podium at some point this year.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:28 PM   #7
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Good on him. I think he is setting himself a goal, and I hope he does well. I think he is also realistic enough to state that it will be difficult, but not impossible to beat Nico I wish him well.
good call...
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:58 PM   #8
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Not for Rubens and Eddie at Ferrari
Actually, Rubens had a habit of starting his seasons off by saying he would challenge for the WDC, whereas Irvine kow-towed by saying Schumi is the greatest.

Rubens had the belief and ability to beat Schumi on occasions whereas Irvine took the money and deserved a victory or 2 at best.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:56 PM   #9
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Well, that's one way of looking at it.

Another is that Eddie was being honest and up-front, while Rubens was talking bollocks.

Barrichello knew what the situation was and who 'the man' at Ferrari was. If he didn't, then he was really dumb.....and I don't think he is dumb.
Personally, I think that arrangement suited Irv the Swerve well, a mediocre driver paid gazillions to be, well, mediocre.

Match made in heaven.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:05 PM   #10
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Well, that's one way of looking at it.

Another is that Eddie was being honest and up-front, while Rubens was talking bollocks.
To a large degree it's true but at least Rubens made the effort to beat Schumi. People want to see a race and not a procession and Rubens was the moral victor more than once on the same piece of tarmac.

But hey, that's F1 and Schumi took full advantage of the situation with team orders more than necessary.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:38 AM   #11
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Nakajima might be good, but I doubt that he will beat Nico.
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:51 AM   #12
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Personally, I think that arrangement suited Irv the Swerve well, a mediocre driver paid gazillions to be, well, mediocre.

Match made in heaven.
You might call him mediocre (your opinion, and a very wrong one), but he battled it out with Hakkinen for the 1999 WDC title, and he was looking good.
He also managed to put the Jaguar F1 on the podium!

Let's see how Jenson Button compares with Eddie Irvine after more than 100 GPs!
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:10 AM   #13
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You might call him mediocre (your opinion, and a very wrong one), but he battled it out with Hakkinen for the 1999 WDC title, and he was looking good.
He also managed to put the Jaguar F1 on the podium!
Irvine made a bad job of it, IMO, he even had the benefit of team orders and had won races which, on merit, he shouldn't have won - Malaysia and Germany.

Irvine is a decent driver and had that amazing podium with Jaguar in Monaco but you have to put him with your Fisichellas who never made full use of top class machinery simply because their world class team mates and nearest rivals made them look stupid.
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:16 AM   #14
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Irvine made a bad job of it, IMO, he even had the benefit of team orders and had won races which, on merit, he shouldn't have won - Malaysia and Germany.

Irvine is a decent driver and had that amazing podium with Jaguar in Monaco but you have to put him with your Fisichellas who never made full use of top class machinery simply because their world class team mates and nearest rivals made them look stupid.
it was monza
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:23 AM   #15
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it was monza
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:24 AM   #16
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Irvine was on podium in Jaguar both at Monaco (01) and Monza (02).

But about the topic. Nico is a very good driver and it's gonna be really hard to beat him. Matching him would be a more realistic goal. Last year's Brazilian Grand Prix showed that Kazuki has raw speed, now he needs consistency over the whole race distance + ability to excel in qualifying. Very hard to predict anything about someone, who has been in F1 for such little time. What we know that last year he was beating his GP2 team-mate Lapierre quite conveniently, like Kovalainen had done against the same driver two years earlier. Impossible to tell at the moment whether we can draw a comparison now from that one, but who knows.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:02 PM   #17
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You might call him mediocre (your opinion, and a very wrong one),
It may be wrong, but it's really not that far off the mark.

Given the exact same machinery (in Jordan), he was slower and scored less points than Barrichello, whose performances were rather mercurial.

And only when given title-winning machinery in 1999 did he manage his only wins, 2 of which were gifts (Germany, Malaysia), and one due to attrition (Australia).

So IMO he was a bit average.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:30 PM   #18
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So IMO he was a bit average.
Average...but rich!
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:06 PM   #19
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You might call him mediocre (your opinion, and a very wrong one), but he battled it out with Hakkinen for the 1999 WDC title, and he was looking good.
Just shows what a good driver can do in a good car with the full backing of the team...not quite win the title
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:01 PM   #20
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Just shows what a good driver can do in a good car with the full backing of the team...not quite win the title
Let's not bring up that missing wheel problem then!
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