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**HwoRas1** · 03-11-2011, 04:08 AM

Just look at this , I think it's fascinating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtL5HJhrcbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnkA_2GWGI4

Look how much later Loeb is braking , and how rapid his acceleration is ...

**eskimosik** · 03-11-2011, 05:02 AM

Loeb video speeded up.

**opelayday** · 03-11-2011, 11:25 PM

rwd versus 4wd on loose gravel.
It should be faster even without the 25 years.

**Aaron757** · 03-12-2011, 12:11 AM

Loeb video speeded up.

I dont think it is.

**Freefspruptpx** · 03-12-2011, 01:09 AM

There are different circumstances .
Toivonen on video of 1985 is filmed during the rally, when Loeb just testing C4. Toivonen drive looking for a victory and Loeb to build a car as he likes.Two different thinks.

**HwoRas1** · 03-12-2011, 01:34 AM

However , note that Loeb could have done that passage a lot of times during testing ...

**zoneouddy** · 03-12-2011, 01:54 AM

WOW...

cars are faster than they were 30 years back...

REVELATION !!!!!!!

that was a wake up call for sure....

**opelayday** · 03-12-2011, 03:56 AM

What's that light in C4 in the left front.
That point straight down.
They had in the DS3 on some test session, too.

**squicscor** · 03-12-2011, 04:17 AM

What's that light in C4 in the left front.
That point straight down.
They had in the DS3 on some test session, too.

I think that it is correvitt sensor which is used for measuring pitch and roll, speed in two axis, slip angle, and yaw rate. (Citing to Mirek)

**OWV9LSxH** · 03-12-2011, 04:59 AM

Loeb video speeded up.

Im not sure, If it is, its by a very little amount and as mentioned about testing, he will have driven that stretch of road many times and now have his braking point perfected to the last few inches.

A more interesting and telling comparison to watch would be a late Delta S4 or Evo2 T16.

**Gasfghj** · 03-12-2011, 05:36 AM

If I remember right Henri was driving one Costa Smeralda with Porsche (which he won) with his other foot in plaster and used crutches to move around.

**zoneouddy** · 03-12-2011, 06:02 AM

If I remember right Henri was driving one Costa Smeralda with Porsche (which he won) with his other foot in plaster and used crutches to move around.

same as loix in sweden a few years back...and he also did very good for Loix standards....i guess plaster makes driver foot heavier on gas ....

**estheticianI** · 03-12-2011, 06:14 AM

same as loix in sweden a few years back...and he also did very good for Loix standards....i guess plaster makes driver foot heavier on gas ....

No, Loix just couldn't brake.

**Gasfghj** · 03-12-2011, 06:22 AM

Maybe its then better to have only the right both foot in plaster.

**HwoRas1** · 03-12-2011, 06:46 AM

WOW...

cars are faster than they were 30 years back...

REVELATION !!!!!!!

that was a wake up call for sure....

Why such a negative attitude ? No one posted "REVELATION" nearly as spectacular as you want to prove . Surely noone is surprised that the C4 is faster , but I am personally very much impressed by how much faster it is ( the way the power is brought to the ground , how much later it brakes and how MUCH faster it climbs up the hairpin - the 037 looks like a Trabant compared to it ) . So am I an idiot because I am impressed ?

**sEe** · 03-12-2011, 06:58 AM

Why such a negative attitude ? No one posted "REVELATION" nearly as spectacular as you want to prove . Surely noone is surprised that the C4 is faster , but I am personally very much impressed by how much faster it is ( the way the power is brought to the ground , how much later it brakes and how MUCH faster it climbs up the hairpin - the 037 looks like a Trabant compared to it ) . So am I an idiot because I am impressed ?

I think there is a lack of surprise at the difference, largely because the 037 is a two-wheel drive car and the C4 is four-wheel-drive.

**zoneouddy** · 03-12-2011, 07:00 AM

hmmmmm...well actually i liked the videos very very much since its nice to see these things... but the comments underneath are useless....

its like posting the things below

http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpag...ocomputers.htm

http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-imac-27...-339305280.htm

and comment how much better things are....i just don't think we need a thread for obvious things....and to be honest my post was more a reaction to the comments of the posters not the original thread.

**HwoRas1** · 03-12-2011, 07:04 AM

hmmmmm...well actually i liked the videos very very much since its nice to see these things... but the comments underneath are useless....

its like posting the things below

http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpag...ocomputers.htm

http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-imac-27...-339305280.htm

and comment how much better things are....i just don't think we need a thread for obvious things....and to be honest my post was more a reaction to the comments of the posters not the original thread.

Sorry then for my reactions , I had a bad day

**Vcwdldva** · 03-12-2011, 08:49 PM

Yeah, the lightweight 037 Abarth was only 2wd but still, they fairly (tightly though) defeated a multi million DM unreliable Audi Quattro armada in the 1983 manu championship.

How i miss Lancia...

03-11-2011, 04:08 AM	#1
HwoRas1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	25 years of development - video proof Just look at this , I think it's fascinating http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtL5HJhrcbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnkA_2GWGI4 Look how much later Loeb is braking , and how rapid his acceleration is ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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eskimosik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	Loeb video speeded up. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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opelayday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 537 Senior Member	rwd versus 4wd on loose gravel. It should be faster even without the 25 years. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 12:11 AM	#4
Aaron757 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Loeb video speeded up. I dont think it is. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Freefspruptpx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	There are different circumstances . Toivonen on video of 1985 is filmed during the rally, when Loeb just testing C4. Toivonen drive looking for a victory and Loeb to build a car as he likes.Two different thinks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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HwoRas1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	However , note that Loeb could have done that passage a lot of times during testing ... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 01:54 AM	#7
zoneouddy Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	WOW... cars are faster than they were 30 years back... REVELATION !!!!!!! that was a wake up call for sure.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 03:56 AM	#8
opelayday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 537 Senior Member	What's that light in C4 in the left front. That point straight down. They had in the DS3 on some test session, too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 04:17 AM	#9
squicscor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	What's that light in C4 in the left front. That point straight down. They had in the DS3 on some test session, too. I think that it is correvitt sensor which is used for measuring pitch and roll, speed in two axis, slip angle, and yaw rate. (Citing to Mirek) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 04:59 AM	#10
OWV9LSxH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 519 Senior Member	Loeb video speeded up. Im not sure, If it is, its by a very little amount and as mentioned about testing, he will have driven that stretch of road many times and now have his braking point perfected to the last few inches. A more interesting and telling comparison to watch would be a late Delta S4 or Evo2 T16. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 05:36 AM	#11
Gasfghj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	If I remember right Henri was driving one Costa Smeralda with Porsche (which he won) with his other foot in plaster and used crutches to move around. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 06:02 AM	#12
zoneouddy Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	If I remember right Henri was driving one Costa Smeralda with Porsche (which he won) with his other foot in plaster and used crutches to move around. same as loix in sweden a few years back...and he also did very good for Loix standards....i guess plaster makes driver foot heavier on gas .... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 06:14 AM	#13
estheticianI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	same as loix in sweden a few years back...and he also did very good for Loix standards....i guess plaster makes driver foot heavier on gas .... No, Loix just couldn't brake. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Gasfghj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	Maybe its then better to have only the right both foot in plaster. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 06:46 AM	#15
HwoRas1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	WOW... cars are faster than they were 30 years back... REVELATION !!!!!!! that was a wake up call for sure.... Why such a negative attitude ? No one posted "REVELATION" nearly as spectacular as you want to prove . Surely noone is surprised that the C4 is faster , but I am personally very much impressed by how much faster it is ( the way the power is brought to the ground , how much later it brakes and how MUCH faster it climbs up the hairpin - the 037 looks like a Trabant compared to it ) . So am I an idiot because I am impressed ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 06:58 AM	#16
sEe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 547 Senior Member	Why such a negative attitude ? No one posted "REVELATION" nearly as spectacular as you want to prove . Surely noone is surprised that the C4 is faster , but I am personally very much impressed by how much faster it is ( the way the power is brought to the ground , how much later it brakes and how MUCH faster it climbs up the hairpin - the 037 looks like a Trabant compared to it ) . So am I an idiot because I am impressed ? I think there is a lack of surprise at the difference, largely because the 037 is a two-wheel drive car and the C4 is four-wheel-drive. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 07:00 AM	#17
zoneouddy Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	hmmmmm...well actually i liked the videos very very much since its nice to see these things... but the comments underneath are useless.... its like posting the things below http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpag...ocomputers.htm http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-imac-27...-339305280.htm and comment how much better things are....i just don't think we need a thread for obvious things....and to be honest my post was more a reaction to the comments of the posters not the original thread. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 07:04 AM	#18
HwoRas1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	hmmmmm...well actually i liked the videos very very much since its nice to see these things... but the comments underneath are useless.... its like posting the things below http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpag...ocomputers.htm http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-imac-27...-339305280.htm and comment how much better things are....i just don't think we need a thread for obvious things....and to be honest my post was more a reaction to the comments of the posters not the original thread. Sorry then for my reactions , I had a bad day Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2011, 08:49 PM	#19
Vcwdldva Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Yeah, the lightweight 037 Abarth was only 2wd but still, they fairly (tightly though) defeated a multi million DM unreliable Audi Quattro armada in the 1983 manu championship. How i miss Lancia... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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