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Kk21pwa9 07-21-2010 09:41 PM

Arab Lies to Get Laid; Apparently Guilty of Rape
 
Israel is ****ing nuts... then again, that's not surprising.

seooptiman 07-21-2010 10:12 PM

What an unfair law http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

kilibry 07-21-2010 10:36 PM

Wacky law http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

dWSOj26H 07-21-2010 11:13 PM

And lest anyone forget the article I posted a few months ago, miscegeny between Israelis and Arabs is not allowed in Israel. An Arab man can not legally marry an Israeli woman in the state of Israel.

Navzrrqt 07-21-2010 11:26 PM

Thread is useless without pics

JAMES PIETERSE 07-21-2010 11:31 PM

I'll put a $20 on the table that if it had been a Portuguese guy pretending to be Spanish, none of this would have happened. Israel http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

Chooriwrocaey 07-22-2010 12:16 AM

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And lest anyone forget the article I posted a few months ago, miscegeny between Israelis and Arabs is not allowed in Israel. An Arab man can not legally marry an Israeli woman in the state of Israel.
WTF?

layedgebiamma 07-22-2010 12:53 AM

If her prospective suitor's jewishness was that great of an issue for her, then perhaps she should have taken just a little more time to verify it.

ssyyyrruho 07-22-2010 01:39 AM

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Thread is useless without pics
Are you KH, Jr?


I don't know that it's a ridiculous law, given the circumstances and feelings in the area. Why did he lie? (Rhetorical question)

priordine 07-22-2010 01:43 AM

This is pretty stupid. I'll bet whatever the higher court is overturns it.

Vikonbarius 07-22-2010 01:46 AM

If you were surrounded by people wanting to exterminate your entire race, you might get a little crazy, too.


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+1

Even I'm not in favor of forbidding some people to marry or making them jump bureaucratic hurdles http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif
What does this comment have to do with anything? This isn't a forbidden marriage thing.

Twelearly 07-22-2010 01:52 AM

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If you were surrounded by people wanting to exterminate your entire race, you might get a little crazy, too.
Well they did chose to move there didn't they?


Also Israelies or "Jews" aren't a race. Genetics tells us this. Askenazi and Shepardim Jews could be considered a micro race, however they are basically a Euro-Middle Eastern hybrid. They are firmly Caucasoid.

There are plenty of nonCaucasoid Jews, including East Asian and Black ones living in Israel.

deermealec 07-22-2010 03:27 AM

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If her prospective suitor's jewishness was that great of an issue for her, then perhaps she should have taken just a little more time to verify it.
That's just what she was trying to do, stupid. They went into a private room so she could verify that he was circumsized in proper Jewish fashion, she went in for a closer look, and things went from there.

Re:OP, I have rarely heard of a law more easily parodied. It's hard to believe that's serious. I mean, DF could sue beer companies for rape after waking up next to an ugly one.

E4qC1qQ5 07-22-2010 05:12 AM

Before you go spouting off about israel's backwardness, consider that people get their names stuck on a list that prevents you from owning a house or getting a job for the rest of their lives for having sex with 17 year olds here.

This is not a defense of israel's law. My point is that **** is ****ed up everywhere.

Amfdaaandhaq 07-22-2010 08:41 AM

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You (or the author) are misconstruing this to be about race when it's really about religion. It's not the Arabness that is stopping the marriage, but the Muslimness or Christianness etc. You might say it has (almost) the same effect but the rationale is different.
Yes, this means Israel is not a whacky secular state but a whacky fundi state which can't properly keep religion and state apart.

beloveds 07-22-2010 01:47 PM

You say that as though the existence of precedent somehow made it less retarded. Screwing a guy voluntarily, while completely conscious, constitutes rape? Do you not see the ludicrousness of that?

TCjwwhcY 07-22-2010 02:18 PM

If anything, this is more of a "Feminazis gone mad" type of thing.

It's the old "**** a prostitute and don't pay her = rape" question.

oscilsoda 07-22-2010 04:17 PM

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Yes, this means Israel is not a whacky secular state but a whacky fundi state which can't properly keep religion and state apart.
Yes. Apparently Israel is run by the feminazi/fundie alliance of crazy. I can't believe it's Iran people are worried about.

shodulsilfeli 07-22-2010 06:54 PM

What a sad sad case. This just goes further to prove the Israeli court system is gradually becoming insane.

The law questionably includes "lying or creating a false image to induce consent" as a form of rape.

A previous advocate general said the "false pretense" clause should be enacted when "a common person may expect that the woman would not give concent if she had known some information to be false".

There were already 2 precedents by the court:
A (jewish) person who pretended to be a senior figure in the housing ministry who promised his lover an apartment and an increased pension through his wife's work.
A (jewish) person who pretended to be a rich brain surgeon promising loads of gifts and free medical care to his loved one.

The ***** that pressed charges relied less on the fact he's an arab but more on the fact he falsely claimed he was single and was interested in possibly setting up a family with her, while he was in fact married.

This is of course very odd since by his account, they went to **** something like 15 minutes after first meeting. This makes her claims she was somehow enchanted by a supposed possibility of marrying him a bit dubious.

This case is just ludicrous on all accounts. It has raised a lot of eyebrows in the legal community and is heavily criticized in the media.

The guy said he had recently got calls from lawyers offering free legal services.

qd0vhq4f 07-23-2010 05:49 AM

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I'll put a $20 on the table that if it had been a Portuguese guy pretending to be Spanish, none of this would have happened. Israel http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif
Nobody knows the difference between the two


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