[kubekniekubek]

I never knew Putin did 9/11. Thanks for sharing. That man may be out of office, but he'll return someday. And I will be waiting

[Dwemadayday]

I don't like men but you turn me on when you talk like that

[temansertewek]

No need to fret over circumstantial oddities when it easily provable that buildings cannot collapse symmetrically and at free-fall speed due to fire or airplane impact.

[michael247]

It's interesting that there are many thousands of conspiracy convictions every year, for all types of crimes, and the word is also used to describe activities which people believe never occur.

[UtidaBrar]

"Conspiracies" involving hundreds of thousands of people, unknown, presumably all members of the government and also many outside it

Which conspiracy is that?

Just ballparking, 9/11 might have taken a few hundred or so, maybe more maybe less, hard to say.

Couple dozen to fit the towers with demolition explosives. The WTC complex was shut down - electricity, security systems, etc - a few weekends prior to 9//11.

A few to fiddle at the FAA. Dick Cheney was running NORAD, maybe a few generals were in on it. Obviously Bush and most likely high ranking staffers.

Probably quite a few involved in the media psyops operation. oBviously CIA had a lot to do with the prepping of Al-Quaeda as the "boogy man" for some years.

High-jacking teams on the airplanes, or perhaps they were remotely controlled.

Everyone else's beliefs, including nearly everyone in the government, are based on misinfo propagated in mass media. Media reports went from "Sure looked like a demolition." in the early hours, to "AL QUAEDA, AL QUAEDA, AL QUAEDA" once the media began to regurgitate the gov't line.

[steerryGritly]

The collapses looked identical to a controlled demolition, and some journalists noted that.

The WTC towers were designed to withstand airplane impact, and some journalists noted that also.

[asharbiq]

I blame Berzerker for this.

[vforvandetta]

Raise your hand if you think there's any point to arguing about this with a 9/11 truther.

[wentscat]

You are an evil evil man.

[intmarkworkk]

WTC buildings 1, 2, and 7 collapsed. That's three.

Softened steel will still provide some resistance, preventing a free fall collapse.

With asymmetrical fires on a handful of floors, it is nigh impossible for the structure to experience total failure, have been symmetrical, and occur at free fall speed. It's never happened before in history, and there have been a good many steel structure fires.

Total failure is not out of the question, physically speaking, although it is incredibly unlikely, but the symmetrical and free fall fashion is very close to impossible.

I couldn't find out who Tom Rogers is, other than an author, but this is from some 5000+ architects and engineers at http://www.ae911truth.org/

WTC Building #7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibits all the characteristics of a classic controlled demolition with explosives: (and some non-standard characteristics)
1. Rapid onset of “collapse”
2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a full second prior to collapse
3. Symmetrical “collapse” – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall acceleration
4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed mostly in its own footprint
5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
6. Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly-qualified witnesses
7. Chemical signature of Thermite (high tech incendiary) found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples by physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
8. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
9. Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
10. Fore-knowledge of “collapse” by media, NYPD, FDNY

And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never “collapsed”.

[inownsuipsy]

You're trippin' Darius.

I've made one thread about the Fed in my 8 years here at poly. You, on the other hand, trolled me in that thread, called me out by name in another thread title re: the Fed, and now you're all giggly about it in this one.

The only incessant thing I see is you chasing me around and shoveling your pitiful ad hominem.

[nancywind]

You're trippin' Darius.

I've made one thread about the Fed in my 8 years here at poly. You, on the other hand, trolled me in that thread, called me out by name in another thread title re: the Fed, and now you're all giggly about it in this one.

The only incessant thing I see is you chasing me around and shoveling your pitiful ad hominem.

No. Aside from foreign policy, the big bad Fed is virtually all you post about on the OTF. The search function is not your friend.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...81#post5450681
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...52#post5449852
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...91#post5523591
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...78#post5450778
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...49#post5446749
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...56#post5646756
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...82#post5633182
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186287
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...48#post5619248
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...03#post5565903

The biggest argument that Bush had no prior knowledge was the fact that WHAT moron would have have it happen while sitting and reading to school kids and not having a real response prepared to make him look like a real leader. And it would take considerable brains to coordinate everything with terrorists. Brains, Bush obviously was lacking in.

Well in fairness, I didn't see HalfLotus say anything about Bush in particular. It'd be easy enough for him to circumvent your entire argument by claiming that "they" duped Bush just like the rest of us and the combination of his idiocy and his desire to go after Al-Qaeda rendered him "their" unwitting pawn ever since. There would be no evidence to support this added layer of complexity of course, let alone evidence of who "they" are in the first place, but that doesn't stop certain people.

[Equackasous]

He did mention Bush specifically.

Oh. You mopped the floor with him then.

[Avaindimik]

I think Bush knew about it, but planning and coordination? I doubt it.

He got his story mixed up later when he said he watched the first plane hit the WTC before going into the classroom, even though no video of it was shown on TV until after the second plane hit while he was in the classroom.

[Munccoughe]

I think it would be excellent if other people were to continue arguing with HalfLotus.

[9rCR9hWL]

HalfLotus, you should read the latest Repairman Jack novel by Wilson. "Ground Zero"
The plot centers around the 9-11 conspiracy and provide some interesting theories.

[u8MmZFmF]

HalfLotus, you should read the latest Repairman Jack novel by Wilson. "Ground Zero"
The plot centers around the 9-11 conspiracy and provide some interesting theories.
"less than satisfying"
-Publisher's Weekly

If the straight-shooters at PW weren't intrigued, a certified nutcase like me would be bored to death.

[AromeWahmaron]

I read that review myself but have to admit that I, as a big RJ fan, found it quite satisfying since it answers some long outstanding questions.
Such as?

A) FFS, those links were only to threads in which you posted multiple times, not to each such post, and moreover they only spanned a time period from October 2008 to the present, not anytime prior (don't insult my intelligence by skewing the "average" with the seven years you spent almost entirely in on-topic forums). Try more like two dozen posts in the last year alone. (link)

B) In any event it's not about frequency of posts on the topic, or thread OP's for that matter; it's about the proportion of all OTF posts on the topic. If someone only posted 30 times a year, but devoted 90% of those rare posts to the topic of UFOs, would it not be accurate to say that such a person is unusually fixated on UFOs?
Darius, your self-spun arguments are agonizingly petty and boring. We're trying to put on a good show here for JRabbit and Co.

Stop shooting spitballs from the back row and giggling like a school girl. Take your skirt off, man up, and post something worth ****ing reading.

[paulaglober]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Although, for some reason, I immediately related your mention of it to Joe the Plumber, and thought you were 2 in 1'ing me with conservative kook insults. Turns out you just like bad books.

[wasssallx]

Darius, your self-spun arguments are agonizingly petty and boring. We're trying to put on a good show here for JRabbit and Co.

Stop shooting spitballs from the back row and giggling like a school girl. Take your skirt off, man up, and post something worth ****ing reading.

And you're a poopy-head.