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Old 08-02-2009, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default Israel joins a sad club of western liberal nations
Israel isn't a western liberal nation.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:02 PM   #2
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Israel isn't a western liberal nation.
it is now
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:26 PM   #3
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Israel is a colony of Russia
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:34 PM   #4
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I'd take NP over WS. 2-1
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:38 PM   #5
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I'd take NP over WS
That's because you're an idiot.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:40 PM   #6
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Is it just me, or would it be cool to watch a bunch of Hassidim fight a bunch of Amish people?
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:42 PM   #7
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Is it just me, or would it be cool to watch a bunch of Hassidim fight a bunch of Amish people?
been there done that.
hassidim would kick their asses.


anyway, discuss the op or start a new thread.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:49 PM   #8
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been there done that.
hassidim would kick their asses.


anyway, discuss the op or start a new thread.
a) No [serious]
b) Even though the amish are pacifists, I doubt it. I bet the Hassidim are slappers
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:58 PM   #9
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:09 PM   #10
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It's because I fail to see more relation between anti-gay terrorism and liberal nations other than the very fact that gay activity is allowed only in liberal nations. Thus, "joining the club of liberal nations" has already been complete with allowing public gay life alltogether, not with anti gay violence.
there's a group of liberal nations that allows public gay life
there's a sad (sub)group of those, where such atrocities occur.

Israel moved from the first to the 2nd.

I fail to see how pictures of police fighting hassidim rioters over a parking lot in Jerusalem is relevant.
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:06 PM   #11
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OMG, were any lesbians hurt?
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:28 PM   #12
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It's sad when people are murdered, but is it unexpected?

Israel has lots of religious extremists and there's been hate crimes perpetrated by those people before. I seem to recall redaing they are multiplying faster than the rest of the population too so we will probably see more of this in the future.
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:54 PM   #13
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Btw, there is no conclusive evidence that the killer was hassidic. He could have easily been any religious type, but very violent. Maybe had a personal vendetta (ie - his kid was gay, and he blamed the consulting center for 'brainwash').
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:01 PM   #14
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There was a shooting incident several years ago? Someone massacred a whole bunch of arabs. Maybe he wasn't hassidim.
He wasn't hassidim.
Funny enough, i don't remember if he was even the regular ultra-orthodox type.
And it certainly stood out as rarity.

But is it true that they are increasing as a proportion of Israel's population? It seems like something that logically should be true, because they are religious and have more babies than the national average. Yes. The amount of sane Israelis does not grow much.

The amount of insane Israelis does: seclusive hassidim, ultra-orthodox nationalists, and muslim arabs are all procreating like crazy rabbits.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:49 PM   #15
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Zevico - I'm pretty sure he was referring to Natan Zada.

I prefer we keep this on israel proper.
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Old 08-03-2009, 03:07 PM   #16
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Fine, let's discuss physics.

You start.
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