[mygalinasoo]

Wow. This is almost as fun as watching the actual confirmation hearings.

[Ervins Dervish]

Calling someone a communist and it being racist is like saying calling someone a republican is racist. There is no factual evidence to support that Sessions calling NAACP communist is racist, it is not a racist comment. Saying they are all dumb Ners is. There is a very, very clear distinction between the two.

[Suentiend]

Calling someone a communist and it being racist is like saying calling someone a republican is racist. There is no factual evidence to support that Sessions calling NAACP communist is racist, it is not a racist comment. Saying they are all dumb Ners is. There is a very, very clear distinction between the two.

So attacking an organization that supports the rights of black people while praising the KKK is not something a racist would do?

[LomodiorCon]

Calling the Black Panthers merely a black rights support group is like saying a hot dog is merely a small sausage. There are activist groups for a cause, and there are radical, racist, terrorist groups. The Black Panthers are such of the latter, as are the KKK and Neo-Nazis. There are white supremacist groups out there that are stable, peaceful, and just want whats right what whites, such as the elimination of affirmative action, the ending of racial bias towards minorities, eliminating black history month, so on and so forth. In some of their eyes it isn't just about all white everywhere, it is about evening things out to eliminate all the crap that blacks through at whites daily that isn't racist and what whites throw back that is. And DaShi, an insult is far from a racist comment. Same on one level, but very different on another.

Like calling you a retard, that can be taken racist or discrimatory towards mentally handicapped. Calling you a faggot can be taken racist or discrimitory towards homosexuals. Calling you a big nosed Jew can be taken racist, either you hate Jews and are racist or your a Jew and it is racist to you. But calling someone a communist, a fascist, or a Nazi *Nazis were a party not a people* is not racist. Yes Nazis are racist but in fact the Nazi Party was strictly a white supremacist political party. Are you going to feel as though your a victim of racism if someone calls you a terrorist?

[Civilrecordzz]

It is 12:31am for me and I gotta get up in the morning, you want a list of white rights activist groups your gonna have to wait until morning for me.

[ddxbovMQ]

To explain it to you. Calling someone a communist can be used as an insult. Thus, Sessions remarks could be easily understood as an insult against the NAACP. Thats nice Dashi. I am curious why you just looked up all those links when it has no impact on the discussion whatsoever. Nobody here has said one way of the other whether calling someone a communist is an insult or not. It is irrelevant. Calling somone a communist is an insult whether it is factual or not. Is insulting the NAACP inherently racist? Is anyone every disparaging them an automatic candidate for suspected racism?

The question is whether it is racist, and the only way you can show this if if you have some evidence that he only critisizes black communists.

This doesn't make logical sense. If I had something that clearly proved that his use of communist is racist, I would have presented it. My argument from the beginning is that there is doubt that it could be a racist statement. However, this does not prove that it was not a racist statement. Please state whether or not you understand this. If not, I will attempt to further explain it to you a third time. And thus we get to the crux of your quibbling. This thread, the one whose OP you failed to read apparently, is about people saying calling the NAACP communist is in and of itself (they provided no other support for their conclusion)racist, a position supported by our thread starter.

I pointed out that there is nothing in the article that in any way pointed to the use of that word bieng racist. There is no reason to come to the conclusion of the OP starter, and what was your brilliant comment

"It could be"

No **** sherlock, and Obama COULD BE a non natural born citizen, and the moon landings COULD BE a hoax, and Oerdin COULD BE the owner of a 48" pizza. The point is there is nothing that even hints that any of the above including that Sessions comment COULD be racist should be entertained.

Congratulations, you have discovered a remarkably useless arguement method commonly employed by three year olds.

So, AGAIN, what are you holding up for a factor that would lead anyone to entertain that calling the NAACP a commuist COULD BE racist.

Oh, and I called the personal attacks. But that was obvious. It's just amazing how unreasonable you are and no matter how polite someone becomes, you must attack and lie about them to save your fragile ego. Stating the obvious fact that you are an idiot is not a personal assault. The truth hurts, and I suspect this one hurts you more often than not.

What you should be doing to save yourself from looking like a complete buffoon is to acknoledge that your quibble was indeed childish, and as it stands right now there is nothing whatsoever pointing to that comment being racially motivated. Or, simply adopt my postion, which encompasses yours anyway but without the stupid quibbling of the last page that you have been engaging in.

[VitaliyMurnov]

White groups tend to be less racial and more ethnic. They focus on issues related to Italian or Irish descended Americans. Mostly they're a bunch of whiny *****es, but so's the NAACP.

[QzVyZbTg]

There is no hard evidence against Sessions specifically that he is indeed a racist and that that was why he attacked the NAACP by painting it with a communist label.

But Pattycakes cannot deny that racists can use more subtle tactics and attacks that are harder to prove that such attacks are indeed racist. It's one thing to criticize NAACP on legitimate points in its managment, financing, or whatever and quite another to falsely paint the NAACP as being communist. The first instance is legitimate criticizing of NAACP - the second one can either be a subtle way for racists to attack NAACP or not.

[autoloanexpert]

Yes - peculiar that Sessions singled out only African-Americans for allegations of voting fraud.

What Pattycakes does not seem to realize is that racists do not have to be obvious in choosing to attack minority groups. The more sly racists today, in light of greater sense of political correctness will use other, under-the-table tactics to attack minority groups.

[MidwestMadman]

Not sure why you called me a twit if you are essentially agreeing with me, KH.

[chuecafresss]

I called you twits because you're twits.

[FateHostera]

You ****!

[spamkillerj]

But I'm not yet ready to call him a racist, despite him being republican. So now your saying that being a republican makes someone racist?

Church of Jesus Christ–Christian - while peaceful teach very racist views on ethnic groups.

White Student Union - Students group for white rights, protests but has not shown terrorist acts such as the KKK. Many get slammed down by university heads quickly.
Retorting that such groups are illegal for being racist is holding a double standard. Almost every university has an LSU (Latin Students Union) and a BSU (Black Students Union) and those are not considered racist, yet a WSU would be considered racist.

European-American Unity and Rights Organization - Equal rights for White Americans, particularly through an end to affirmative action. Tougher sentencing for violent crime, alongside the repealing of hate crime legislation.

Neo-Confederates - Beliefs concern themselves strongly with the issues of race including opposition to the modern civil rights movement. neo-Confederates is that the Republican party was involved with a communist conspiracy from the time of Abraham Lincoln. Much of the Neo-Confederate movement is concerned with giving the proper due honor to the Confederacy itself, to the veterans of the Confederacy and Confederate veterans' cemeteries, to the various flags of the Confederacy, and to cultural Southern identity.

This is the case, the NAACP, which has black interests in mind at the expense of whoever or whomever stands in their way, is OK. But white groups such as European-American Unity and Rights Organization are racist and thus labeled hostile, violent, or terrorist immediately.

Why oh why is it ok for ethnic groups to have groups for their own people promoting their race, color, or religion and not called racist, but immediately if an all white group comes out for the same reasons it is?

Fact of the matter remains DaShi, communism is not a race and calling someone a communist does not insult their race. It is a form of political policies and government, calling someone a communist is hitting at their political beliefs, and in absolutely no way their race.

Due to firewalls in my office I was not able to access most of the links to groups, information was derived from compiled lists on wikipedia.org.

[Msrwbdas]

I only started to read that editorial, skimmed the remainder, saw she ended with a reference to a tired, annoying song from the nineties. If that is actually written by her (source?), I have just moved into the anti-Sotamayor camp. Keep your spicy Latina justice to yourself, woman. Wait, no, that has to be a parody. That is a parody, right?

EDIT: "-- including Latina. In fact, I seem to remember that my law school books were filled with Latin words." :gigafacepalm: DAMMIT, somebody tell me that's a parody! Tell me it's a parody RIGHT NOW!

[Celeliamend]

You're not seriously unsure if that article is fake, Elok?

I don't believe it.

[RozzyLiu]

Yeah, like the happy, fluffy Black Panthers.

The happy, fluffy, Black Panthers didn't go out of their way to kill white people. When they did get involved in shoot outs, nearly always, they were the ones attacked. Militant self-defense is not what the KKK does.

[Ccddfergt]

The happy, fluffy, Black Panthers didn't go out of their way to kill white people. When they did get involved in shoot outs, nearly always, they were the ones attacked. Militant self-defense is not what the KKK does.

I can't figure out why you aren't defending communists, several people in this thread have used it as an insult, you pinko rat bastard.

ACK!