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Old 06-05-2009, 10:10 PM   #1
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Default [Legal] Do you feel this is abuse of system or upholding due process of the law?
Hey, the law is there to protect people from not getting paid when they are fired for silly reasons (if they win the appeal then all that missed pay is pretty crappy). Sometimes asses take advantage. Just the way it is.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #2
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Thread is useless without pics...
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:57 PM   #3
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Please delete them
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:36 PM   #4
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Thread is useless without pics...
True. So true.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:53 PM   #5
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No, let her appeal and if overturned pay her back wages
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Old 06-06-2009, 01:33 AM   #6
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Thread title seems to be a false dichotomy.
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Old 06-06-2009, 01:33 PM   #7
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Thread title seems to be a false dichotomy.
How so?
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:17 PM   #8
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He's saying it's abuse of the system on her part, but also upholding due process of the law (so far as courts are concerned).
Ok,

Im also torn, because while convicted, she does have her right of appeal.

I am however, leaning toward "holding" any further pay pending outcome of legal process having run its course.

Then again, say a person is indeed wrongfully convicted and put away, she may need the money to pay bills or support family.

Tough call, but even those who seem beyond a reasonable doubt to be guilty may end up an innocent victim of an imperfect system.


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Old 06-07-2009, 08:56 AM   #9
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JM: how is that consistent at all with any reasonable sense of justice?

So if you are unjustly convicted but your appeals drag on, the money cuts off?
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:03 AM   #10
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That too.
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Old 06-07-2009, 03:14 PM   #11
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enticing a child by electronic means

Interesting phrasing on that law...
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Old 06-07-2009, 04:08 PM   #12
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The lesson here is that tenure for elementary and high school teachers is ****ing retarded.
Right. We want teachers who have proven the worth for ten or even twenty years to be put into a situation of being fired because they refused to pick up the principal's dry cleaning!
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:50 PM   #13
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Slowwy's right. The alternative would be for the courts to speculate and effectively create their own exception to a rule devised by the Alabaman legislature.


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If the article's accurate about the law, Slowwy's wrong, and doing as he suggests would be the courts speculating and effectively creating their own exception to a rule devised by the legislature. As described, the law provides for an appealing teacher to be paid timely through the appeal, and without regard to outcome. Slowwy's solution conditions payment on outcome and defers it until after that is known.

That said, the legislature down here is owned by Paul Hubbert and the teachers' union, so (a) it's not surprising that this situation would arise here, and (b) any thought of rewriting the law is a pipe dream.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:12 PM   #14
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He's a union lawyer. You should probably ignore everything he says, actually.
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