[Gozmand]

Socialism with Japanese Characteristics.

[stastony]

Meh, Ali doesn’t care about this thread – she’s just feeling guilty about being a Death Threat Apologist…

[clapsoewmred]

I'll look into it, thanks!

[elalmhicabalp]

Tentacle porn and used panty vending machines for everyone, not just the bourgeoisie.

[iiilizium]

Japanese might pull it off, actually. Their work ethic would work well with communist work ethic.

[herbalviagra]

Yeah, they won't be relying on pen-and-paper technology like the Russian and Chinese Communists were.

Though 150 years is, what?, 2159? Screw Communism, by then we'll have Skynet telling everybody what to do.

[lerobudrse]

Well then he can bloody well go and find out for himself can't he?

It's not cheap, y'know. In between the border bribes and the bearnapping expenses, you've also got to factor in the cost of getting a visa. Let him do his own field research, for now my findings are my own.

[RIjdrVs3]

Yes - Japanese commies are fake.

They haven't even executed whole classes of people or anything!

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[RlUbQU3R]

Interesting thought:

If something went haywire and the Communists actually took control of Japan, wouldn't that stand to really hurt relations with China?

The Chinese Communist party is basically running a massive unfettered free market-econoomics, authoritarian-politics state. The Japanese Communist party looks like it's more likely to lead to a socialist-economics, democratic-politics state.

[TyncTyncSah]

Where do the Japanese (former, I guess) megacorps fit into the political spectrum? From what I understand, they're largely cradle-to-grave welfare entities that support much of the lifelong demands of their salarymen, including financial planning, home ownership, retirement savings plans, and healthcare defrayal - rather like the Chinese tried with the Iron Ricebowl.

But the difference is that the Chinese put the gov't in charge of this and the Japanese entrusted it to corporate entities instead.

And IIRC both models have since been rejected. China doesn't even have a "Paper Ricebowl" social security system any more, and Japan's corporate SocSec service is fast divesting itself and streamlining.

[OvDojQXN]

China has announced that it will be recreating its social safety net. Dismantling it has proven a disaster.

Yeah, it's a fine line to walk between state subsidies that make industry less competitive (which China MUST eliminate, under its WTO obligations) vs. state subsidies that contribute to crucial social infrastructure (roads, education, health care, etc.). It's taken America and European nations a century or more of trial and error to come up with their current models. China's scrambling to get something workable up and running in a few decades before it really hits the fan.

[LINETFAD]

By successful you mean not successful at all.

[bapimporb]

By successful you mean not successful at all.

The Communist Party was one of the major opposition parties in Japan up until the 80s.

[Fetowip]

Who cares about being important in the opposition if the LDP has been reigning for near eternity

[lopushok]

Ah yes...The Kulaks decided to commit suicide in their millions...

Uncle Joe tried to talke them out of it, but...

Uh, millions?

[elektikaka]

The Kulaks never really existed. They were imaginary enemies cooked up by the Stalinists, which isn't to say there weren't well off peasants, but they weren't a class unto themselves.

In any event, the liquidation of the Kulaks as a class was not meant to mean their physical extermination. Very few of them were executed or shot. Most of them died because of bureaucratic ham-handed seizure of grain at the very time the crops failed. The liquidation of the kulaks was meant to be the collectivization of the farms, which would have turned the Kulaks into agricultural workers. If you transform a class of people into a different class, you have liquidated them as a class.

Also, the famine didn't discriminate by class or ethnicity. If you lived in the regions affected, death played no favorites. The famine hit the Don region particularly hard, and most of the people who lived there (in both Russian and the Ukraine) were Russians. The vast majority of deaths occurred there.

There was one class of people that were physically exterminated in modern history, the aristocracy. They were killed off by the bourgeoisie, however. So don't ride too high in that horse.

[WenPyclenoWex]

OK.

And Germany was not beaten in WW1 either - The undefeated army was betrayed by cowards at home!

[indianstory]

Have you ever looked at the data from the Soviet archives?

I have.

[mr.supervideogoodfd]

Someone sporting an SS uniform shouldn't be quick to talk.

It's a standard German army uniform, actually.

And that is my avatar, Che.

I am as much a living skeleton in WW2 garb as you are a small red toad.

(unless you are in fact a small red toad, in which case I apologise)

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[Afigenatjola]

It's a standard German army uniform, actually.

And that is my avatar, Che.

I am as much a living skeleton in WW2 garb as you are a small red toad.

(unless you are in fact a small red toad, in which case I apologise)

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I AM a small red toad!