[sposteTipsKage]

What was done in Guantanamo were freedom inquiries, not torture.

[Tic Tac Took]

This is intolerable, but when you get to this point...

She said: "If we tolerate this and allow it, then how can we object when our servicemen and women, or others in foreign service, are captured and subjected to the same techniques? I wasn't aware that the Taliban or AQ afforded our people anything more than a bullet through the brain.

[gDGwm8BC]

What on Earth does that have to do with this topic?

[hictchewisa]

If we're torturing people, then we are the terrorists. The word terrorist is beginning to be used to mean any enemy of the US and Israel.

[ASSESTYTEAH]

I think it is the clearly defined reason for most of the rules of war, however (ie, the Geneva convention); we agree to not do these things, under the hope that it will cause our citizens to be treated the same way. Not out of any human rights concern (as the human rights issue is identical whether you are a British citizen or a member of Al Qaeda); just out of prevention of harm to our own.

If the world has lost some belief that we stick to this rule, then it is certainly logical to say that it is slightly more likely for our own citizens to be dealt with in such a matter. I hardly consider it tenuous.

[zzbust]

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183050

Because the KGB never did anything like that at all anywhere in the world before Bush came to power?