[Foriaelalse]

I've never trusted Gerogia. There's something about a nation that refuses to exist that I just can't trust. Cynical, I know.

[plantBanceper]

Germany =/= "THE WEST"

Germany = Russia's byatch.

[w4HPpbSW]

New details...but they jibe with my analysis at the time.

The separatists were shooting at the Georgians.

The Georgians over reacted.

The Russians way over reacted.

BTW: We still want our military equipment back from those thievin' Russians.

[Elissetecausa]

The Georgians appear to have walked into a well-laid trap. They were baited.

This makes them stupid. It doesn't make Russia right.

-Arrian

[njfeedd3w]

Even if the Russians leave Georgia today their reputation is severely damaged. I don't see investment returning there for at least a decade. (assuming they leave Georgia) Either way the nations around them will seek the common defense that is NATO. I really have to personally thank Putin for that.

This also proves that there's nothing an enemy can do to get Che to side with the west. No matter what an enemy does to a nation like Georgia, we're wrong.

[ardsdelinq]

Originally posted by Lancer
Even if the Russians leave Georgia today their reputation is severely damaged. I don't see investment returning there for at least a decade. (assuming they leave Georgia) Either way the nations around them will seek the common defense that is NATO. I really have to personally thank Putin for that.

This also proves that there's nothing an enemy can do to get Che to side with the west. No matter what an enemy does to a nation like Georgia, we're wrong. Lancer, you might want to get your glasses checked. Maybe you could get someone to read the article to you. NATO doesn't even agree with you.

[BreeveKambmak]

Originally posted by Saras
Germany =/= "THE WEST"

Germany = Russia's byatch. NATO =/= Germany.

[lopaayd]

Originally posted by Arrian
The Georgians appear to have walked into a well-laid trap. They were baited.

This makes them stupid. It doesn't make Russia right.

-Arrian It's a trap? Are you suggesting Georgian defenses can't repel firepower of Russian magnitude?

[kuklame]

Sealift and airlift????

S. Ossetia doesn't have a coast, nor does it have any significant airfields, and even i it did, you can;t airlift units into airfield your land forces don't hold. Che is correct about the Roki tunnel being the only good access: even if there are other roads, are those roads capable of supporting the movement of heavy armor?.

As for the idea that this was a trap. Well, even if we assume that the Russians looked blindly at S. Ossetian provocation in order to trigger some Georgian counteraction, Georgia's counteraction was as disproportionate as Russia's reaction to that. IN short, if it was a"trap," it was an obvious one and one that could have been easily avoided by someone with good judgement or even a modicum of common sense. Obviously both those things were lacking in the Georgian leadership.

[HomePageOEMfreeSOFTWARE]

Originally posted by GePap
Sealift and airlift????

S. Ossetia doesn't have a coast. Georgia does, and Russia used it.

[Kilsimpaile]

I thought this was all cleared up by now.

Russia baited the Georgians by supporting Ossetian insurgents. Saakasjvili saw the start of the Olympics as a good time to invade the unfaithful province and reclaim it (one of his policy points when he was elected in Georgia), ultimately hoping to gain international support and sympathy against teh evil Russian oppressor (which it is of course). Then he could have more leverage to join NATO and he would have gotten rid of Mother Rossya interfering constantly.

Bad gamble, because enough Eurosofties saw through it. Too bad the likes of McCain still have their blindfolds on

[Abebpabeniemo]

Originally posted by Traianvs
I thought this was all cleared up by now. Apparently not. Apparently Western governments aren't buying that BS argument anymore.