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Old 09-22-2008, 09:59 AM   #1
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Default Barack Obama, Master Manipulator vs. McCain sad old guy
huh? what do they determine as spin and how do you measure it?
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:22 AM   #2
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They've measured facials and voice, meaning that they've sort of measured those to determine if the person is saying what he believes is true.

So it's not spinning issues, but if you believe what you are saying is true. I actually have investigated this method of lie detecting using voice analyzers, and it has a pretty good odds, but it doesn't function like this at all. So no, you can't actually measure it too much using public speeches, as in you still need a person conducting it, asking questions, control questions, everything, just like in normal lie detection situation. Otherwise it doesn't work well, or at all. But otherwise it is an interesting technology, we were looking that to see if we could hunt down hackers calling in via phone and asking for information, meaning that they lie who they are and if we could detect that easily, automatically, it would be of great advantage. Turns out it doesn't work, unless the person on the other end of the line is as good as an actual lie detection specialist. So no. Not yet at least.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:03 PM   #3
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This is news to me, wtf is spin? and yes, how is it measured?

Sorry I don't understand, I live in a stable, conservatively advanced country.
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Old 09-22-2008, 01:00 PM   #4
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maybe Michelle Obama should run
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:58 PM   #5
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but there is no other way to say "we are the ones we've been waiting for"
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:18 PM   #6
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Maybe the campaign is wearing him out.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:21 PM   #7
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But then we'd have to listen to them.
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:24 PM   #8
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But you create them. Think of the children!
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:39 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Theben
But you create them. Think of the children! The children can make up their own minds
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:17 PM   #10
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Cartimandua?
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:22 PM   #11
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Of course, this allows them not to have to think.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:44 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Asher
Thinking is overrated. The Republicans only had one thinker in their entire party, Rove, and look how well it works for them. Well, they do keep getting elected and duping people into voting against their best interests...
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:56 PM   #13
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Yep, I'm sure it's propaganda by a right wing group so it has no value. (just because it makes McCain look better and that's not allowed when comparing to the "ONE")

Actually I don't doubt that.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:39 PM   #14
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As poor as the methodology probably was on the first one, I'm sure it was better that what was used on yours.

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Old 09-22-2008, 11:55 PM   #15
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It's quite simple, the Democrats spin things to make them look better. The republicans just abandon reality altogether and lie outright! See... less spin.
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:36 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Mrs Snuggles
Well, no, it seemed like it was measuring whether they believed what they were saying or not, too?

So, clearly, Republicans are shoot-from-the-hip people who truly believe what they say, whereas Democrats are nothing more than big-talking artificers. "Artificers??" Wow, that was very . . . cosmopolitan.
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:09 AM   #17
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
"Artificers??" Wow, that was very . . . cosmopolitan. He's an elitist.
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