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Old 11-19-2007, 10:54 PM   #1
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Default 20-MPG Gas Guzzer Named "Green Car of the Year"
My guess is that the non-hybrid version is so atrocious that 21/22 mpg is a huge improvement.

They probably have already given the award to, say, the Prius, and felt the need to hand it to some other car. If they wanted to give it to a hybrid SUV, though, I would think that the Ford Escape would've been the best choice (IIRC it has the best fuel economy for SUVs).

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Old 11-19-2007, 11:08 PM   #2
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Originally posted by DanS
Unfortunately, much commuting time is taken up by sitting in traffic in the US, and the engines burn quite a lot of gasoline at idle. Belive me, from time to time the same happens in europe too - typically in the morning and then later in the afternoon
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:25 PM   #3
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Assuming that this SUV is driven 100,000 miles during its lifetime, the hybrid version will save up to 2,000 gallons of gasoline. At $3 a gallon, it will save $6,000 during this time period -- that is, if the price of the Tahoe is increased by something less than $6,000, the hybrid addition will be a net benefit to buyers.

Since GM is just starting its hybrid efforts, the hybrid drivetrain is fairly expensive for them (much moreso than it is for Toyota, f.e.). As it becomes less expensive, it might make sense for them in a risk-free fashion to move hybrid into their smaller cars where the savings are smaller.

I have to say though that GM has had a bad attitude toward hybrid (and toward technology advances in general). The Prius has been around for years and GM is just now coming out with a hybrid?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:46 PM   #4
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Err... You can do so, if you wish.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:50 PM   #5
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OK, then you can go pound sound.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:56 PM   #6
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Originally posted by DanS
Assuming that this SUV is driven 100,000 miles during its lifetime, the hybrid version will save up to 2,000 gallons of gasoline. At $3 a gallon, it will save $6,000 during this time period -- that is, if the price of the Tahoe is increased by something less than $6,000, the hybrid addition will be a net benefit to buyers. How long does it take an American to drive 100,000 miles?

I'd estimate based on the odometer in my car that I've done less than 25,000 in the last 10 years (when I started driving).
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:02 AM   #7
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Originally posted by Zkribbler


"ped" = Latin for "foot;" "ant" = a tiny insect
Does this mean you step on ants? the perfect reply!
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:10 AM   #8
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Someone who writes "I can't find highway stats, but assume they're worse" should not write about cars ever.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:26 AM   #9
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Bigger is not always better.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:37 AM   #10
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Ok... my 95 Maxima got better mileage than this, and it was by no means a small car.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:24 AM   #11
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The only one of the four I have driven is the Sebring. I never had any acceleration issues with them (I drove many). I would concur with the "talkative" steering ( ) however. It is a tad loose.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:57 AM   #12
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Originally posted by Apocalypse
Someone who writes "I can't find highway stats, but assume they're worse" should not write about cars ever. That is not an unreasonable statement when concerning hybrid cars. Consider that when the speed falls below a certain level, the car switches to electric until the speed goes back above the certain level. That means that the electric battery is in use far more in city driving than in highway driving (ie, not at all unless you are in a traffic jam ).

For example, the Toyota Prius gets 45 mpg on the highway and 48 mpg in the city.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:13 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Apocalypse
Someone who writes "I can't find highway stats, but assume they're worse" should not write about cars ever. I thought the same ...
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:06 AM   #14
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You don't charge the Prius battery. It takes its power from the brakes.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:20 AM   #15
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


That is not an unreasonable statement when concerning hybrid cars. Consider that when the speed falls below a certain level, the car switches to electric until the speed goes back above the certain level. That means that the electric battery is in use far more in city driving than in highway driving (ie, not at all unless you are in a traffic jam ).

For example, the Toyota Prius gets 45 mpg on the highway and 48 mpg in the city. Every real world test for hybrids I have seen puts the highway a few mpg higher than city driving. The actual values are typically lower than the stated ones, but it is moreso with hybrids.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:39 AM   #16
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20-something mpg is a joke. We should be legislating such vehicles off the road, not giving them rewards.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:29 PM   #17
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Give em a double dose for me pal.
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:18 AM   #18
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Originally posted by Wezil
Subversives.

Why do you hate America?
...because they vote a 20-mpg SUV as "Green Car of the Year."
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