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Old 10-16-2007, 05:33 AM   #1
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Default WTO rules against cotton subsidies.
Damn. Canadian cotton farmers are going to be screwed.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:42 AM   #2
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Pay them to not grow it. China will suffer for it.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:48 AM   #3
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:53 AM   #4
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The ruling is really meaningless (sorry Oerdin). The US can (and you bet they will) appeal.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:35 AM   #5
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I've been told that cotton is one of the most thirsty crops out there requiring even more water then rice. What I don't get is why we're paying farmers in places like California and Texas big subsidies to grow cotton when the regional climate is kind of dry. I mean in California they had to shut off several aqueducts last summer because there wasn't enough water for crops, people, and nature but we're subsidizing farmers and encouraging them to grow extremely water intensive crops?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:49 AM   #6
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I mean in California they had to shut off several aqueducts last summer because there wasn't enough water for crops, people, and nature but we're subsidizing farmers and encouraging them to grow extremely water intensive crops? Yea, that's insane.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:58 AM   #7
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Heavy rain ruins cotton crops. You're better off irrigating. Maybe if you had enough water.

Cotton is bad for the air too.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:00 AM   #8
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I know the WTO does have a very lengthy appeals process but it seems like Brazil and other effected countries got the go ahead to start imposing fines on items using American cotton. Wouldn't those fines stay in place during the appeals process? We won trade ruling after trade ruling against the US in our recent lumber dispute and at the end of the day we still walked away after getting screwed.

The US will do what the US wants to do. As always.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:02 AM   #9
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
You're a polyester kind of guy? I wear cotton clothes. That shouldn't meant that I believe in subsidizing something that takes up scarce resources and makes our air worse.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:03 AM   #10
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Originally posted by Oerdin


How's that? When they harvest it the fibers get airbourne and cause problems with people with alergies. Then there's the pesticides.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:05 AM   #11
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We had all those other states getting in our way.
It wasn't really fair.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:14 AM   #12
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Forget about the foundries and vehicles, let's worry about cotton.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:36 AM   #13
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Meh. The US will get around it somehow. They always do.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:36 AM   #14
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The US will continue to challenge through appeal. If they near the end of the appeals process they will modify their farm subsidy program just enough to be able to go back to the WTO and say "That program is gone now." Meanwhile of course complaints and challenges against the "new" program will have to start at the beginning of the process...
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:10 PM   #15
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The raeson there is a need for the WTO and for it to have teeth is because, the US, the EU and China will try and get round the rules
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:14 PM   #16
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Originally posted by TheStinger
The raeson there is a need for the WTO and for it to have teeth is because, the US, the EU and China will try and get round the rules No country is going to place its national interests below that of another. Nor are they going to give the WTO world governing power unless they are going to be in direct control of that world governing power.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:54 PM   #17
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Bump so the copy cat thread can be closed.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:34 PM   #18
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Originally posted by Oerdin


No doubt some plant fibers get airborne but is that really any worse for people with allergies then just leaving it a natural field full of all sorts of different grasses, flowers, and fungi? I think allergies are the least of our concern. Yes it is worse, and you must not have allergies.
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